Independents

7.5 years of delivery period after order is impossible to swallow... ...  

Look for something else. Ev consider a vintage PP. they are not expensive in todays market and quality is unbeatable.

are some of the most beautiful watches ever made. They are criminally under appreciated in today's market

If my wrist wasn’t so big I would spend much more in this department. The watch you are showing is gorgeous. Especially the hands are to die for. Stylistically it also lends heavy from the vintage Patek universe, IMO. Many interesting vintage Patek to cho... 

until I saw waiting time.

There are other watches out there!

On the other hand, if it were "imaginative watchmaking" I would expect realization much sooner 😆

Nice watch dough...🥂

but not for a friggin watch. MSB

Come on,,,,

Paying close to 20k swiss francs for a watch with a not so well finished and not so interesting vaucher movement and a dial which looks worse than what you would find on a 5196P. There are so many better and more insteresting choices for the money: Lange,... 

I'm not saying 7 years is correct or is it bad or worse watch - I'm just saying the other side of the grass isn't green either... sadly recent years, insta effect has been too much I suppose.

You could get a saxonia thin, a jules audemars, a patrimony or a calatrava for a price close to that of this watch. Plus you could get a doctor strange in steel or go for a brand like GO, GP or UN. I don't dislike the watch, it's nice, but way overpriced ... 

either good vintage or alternative modern timepieces can be great, but wait for a good thing isn't bad either ;-) Best, mahesh.,

Frankly here no history, no inward angles, and ultimately, not even a watch….The only thing in common with the names who wrote the history of this field seems to be the price my friend!😎 Perhaps time to move on?😄 Cheers.

Yes, i've moved on...

It will arrive in May or June this year (I had it confirmed just yesterday)and so far I have been offered double the money for it but those who know me will know that I love dress watches and Breguet numerals - offer me triple and I will love Breguet nume... 

'Double' is probably mine, so I applaud you for your strength of will!

which is why I would not settle for double. Yes there are other dress watches out there but at this price range, I know of none with the quality and beauty of the Murakumo, even compared to the Laine V38 with its wonderful dials and similar movement.

7.5 years is a bit too much. What if it needs service?

Didnt think of it before

Good Luck Perregaux1 there are so many awesome and reasonable Independent.

Lots of options and alternatives out there.

after paying nearly half of the price while ordering and the rest of the price when the watch is ready to be shipped when taking into consideration the waiting time seven years is not for everyone. Nothing wrong with the watch itself.

And I can’t imagine not changing my mind halfway through the waiting

…6 months ago. Not sure what happened here. I hesitated and then decided that it was just overpriced for what it was and too similar to my 5196p. No regrets.

It looks amazing, especially with those hands and numerals.

I like the watch a lot but… considering all aspects (delivery time, price…) I would consider other options and go for a beautiful original vintage with a similar design.

1) must say I love that dial, really do. 2) I noticed many state that 7 years wait is ridiculous (and they are right in 99% of all cases) 3) but if you love it enough, then 7 year wait could just as well be worth it

As earlier mentioned only 6 months back, the wait list for this watch was only around 2 years+ and these guys do not really market their watch much and it flies under the radar pretty much. Even then, word of mouth goes by by watch collectors of the insan...