cazalea
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Good points; I was thinking of only collecting data on watches by AHCI members
thus those are the only rows in the spreadsheet.
However, I can see for example that:
Paul Gerber could be associated with MIH (assembly) although did not design all of it, or have its brand name.
Frank Jutzi watch was actually "created" or customized by him but labeled GoldPfeil
Vincent Calabrese has produced watches under his own name and others - should they all count?
Argh.
You are right, but could it work if we limited to anything which we know was "done by" an AHCI member.
Define "done by" is the next issue, right?
Argh. This message has been edited by cazalea on 2016-03-07 17:49:39
Roll Call of PuristS owning AHCI members' watches?
I don't know how to do a poll anymore, but could we do a rough count of the PuristS who have AHCI watches? After foversta's post today I thought it might be interesting to see if between us, we have watches from most (or all) of the AHCI members. I am goi...
Um, that first watch is mine!
I have that exact Jutzi Goldpfeil Regulator, along with an MIH watch and a custom Habring2. Hope that helps. Best, Daniel
Do you think we should count the Jutzi twice, since we've both owned it?
I say yes! Thanks, I'll add them in. Cazalea
Independent good or Independent rubbish?
Mike, This survey is fraught with problems. One: there is no denominator. Two: there is no criterium for quality or independence. Independent assembly vs Independent manu- facture? Even if hand crafted....done well by a meister or cobbled together by a we...
Good points; I was thinking of only collecting data on watches by AHCI members
thus those are the only rows in the spreadsheet. However, I can see for example that: Paul Gerber could be associated with MIH (assembly) although did not design all of it, or have its brand name. Frank Jutzi watch was actually "created" or customized by ...
Addenda...and Do pens count?
Even if defined as "masters" who passed the AHCI criteria once before, there are anomalies. Frank Muller is missing from the list even if he is a watchmaker-in-name, nowadays with a big boss. FP Journe is on the list but actually in the same position as M...
Yes, it's a muddled business, isn't it?
At first I thought perhaps JUST counting the watches currently owned, but that penalizes those who have revolving collections. But if we count ALL the watches EVER owned, there could be multiple owners of the same item (as with Daniel and me) which would ...
As a medical researcher, my sample would be actual watches in possession now
Like governments' census...where did you sleep on the night of the census? Since AHCI members make everything from the Guinness Book of Records smallest wooden watch to the big clocks, maybe pens are not so far out to demonstrate skill? Regards, MTF
Do they ask "with whom" you slept on the night of the census?
I daresay that's opening a can of worms, even asking where you slept... Watches are easier, and I think pens should count. (Non-AHCI pen for sample demonstration use only) Mike ...
The location criterium for Census count on one specified night in the UK determines actual
....number of 'souls' living inthe country. The problem is the 15 other illegal immigrants hidden in the cellar that you don't tell the census officer with the clipboard! Regards, MTF
I forgot you had a Gerber P10
Michel reminded me of it today, in a conversation we had about my P10 How nice to see yours! Mike ...
Calabrese Sun-tral
An oldie but goodie by the founding half-father of AHCI Regards, MTF ...
I must take the bait; I have a special love for the independents especially the AHCI
Enter your post text A not so great picture of my Andersen Secular Perpetual. Others: PSM Piccadilly McGonigle Tourbillon and Tuscarora Gerber retrograde with power reserve Halter classic Prescher Single Axis Tourbillon Journe Resonance Daniels Anniversar...
I was hoping you'd take the bait
I'd already begun to pencil in the ones I knew about. Mike
Only one AHCI member, represented by two watches in my possession ...
... that is Rainer Nienaber, who originally became an AHCI member for his large clocks, which he doesn't produce any longer. FActually, I had three from Rainer, but one was exchanged for the other. Marcus ...
Loved that watch from the first time I saw it...
Just great -- remember the stories about how careful they need to be tightening the screws into the sapphire bridge... Just great
Current roll call: 60 AHCI watches owned by PuristS
IF you haven't participated, please send me your list by PM, or post it here. Cheers, Cazalea ...
I am counting MIHs as Gerber
No other way to handle it, in my opinion. Thanks Tim. Mike
Hi Mike. If you're including MIH I have one to add. And....
Not sure you want this proto PSM. There are a couple of other independents but not members of AHCI Mitch ...
My list
Is this what you are looking for? Current list: - Vianney Halter Classique www.watchprosite.com - Vianney Halter Deep Space Tourbillon www.watchprosite.com - Habring2 Double Split Chrono limited edition www.watchprosite.com - Vouti...
I could add
1 Beat Haldimann (H1) 3 FP Journe (CS, CR, TN) 1 MIH watch 1 Ochs and Junior Best Andreas
Was looking at spreadsheet...
Looking down the list you include Dubuis. I am not sure they are any longer an independent as I believe that they are partially owned by Richemont. In the list of other independents I could add to that list with a Roger Smith, Don Corson, and Romain Gauth...
Still only the Nienaber..
But it has remained my favourite watch! Here is my write-up from 2002.... www.eden-hms.com
Let's see...
Current; 1. Custom Christian Klings 2. Custom Thomas Prescher 3. Masahiro Kikuno 4. Sarpaneva Diver Past: 1. Vianney Halter Goldpfeil 2. P. Gerber RetroTwin with power reserve 3. Habring with power reserve If we're sticking with AHCI, my new RGM enamel ti...
Masahiro Kikuno
You have a Masahiro Kikuno!! that is so cool. What type ? Would u mind posting pictures? I love his watches.
Felix Baumgartner
Almost forgot about Urwerk, but he still is a member right? GEO ...
I have some.....
I own: A MIH A Peter Speake-Marin A Sarpaneva A RGM A Dornbluth and Sohne
We are counting them
Habring2 as independent, and MIH is currently with Paul Gerber who assembled but did not design them. Thanks! Cazalea
Am I late to the party?...
I have 3, based on criteria.... 1. PSM Serpent Calendar 2. PSM Spirit Mk2 3. Habring2 Time Only
Late, but never too late. I will add them today
Thanks, and a treat for you - perhaps Serpent, Spirit and Skulls go together? Cazalea ...
Thanks....
As for the trio...the skulls I can accept, but the gemstones - not my style! ;-)
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I need to find a Ma Baker as a wife! In ass seriousness, I've seen this in the metal....it is as nice as it looks and certainly is a grail to me, alongside the Parallax Tourbillon from Gronefeld.
Here are mine!
AHCI (Speake-Marin): Others: De Bethune: Pascal Coyon: Thanks for this thread! Fx ...