MartyW
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I don't know why either
why the RDM stays as it is. But I am not complaining.
When JLC came out with the ceramic ball bearing, autoractor and free-sprung balance, what we have was
A) 37mm Master Grand Taille discontinued, now it's Master Control at 40mm,
B) 38mm Master Geographic discontinued, now it's 40mm Master Geographic,
C) 37mm Master Moon discontinued, replaced by 40mm Master Calendar,
D) 37mm Master RDM remains, only the caliber 928 upgraded to 938 with the aforementioned enhancements,
E) 37mm Master Perpetual discontinued, now it's 41mm Master Perpetual,
F) 37mm Master Grand Reveil discontinued, now it's 41mm Master Grand Reveil
And of course 34mm MUT remained totally unchanged: no free-sprung balance.
So if my list is complete, only RDM and MUT didn't have any size increase at that time. Of course JLC did try to "move up" the MUT in late 2008 by releasing the new 38mm MUT. Assuming everyone will now buy the new 38mm MUT, it planned on to discontinue the 34mm this year. But I guess the sales figure told them otherwise and so JLC is keeping the 34mm in production at least for the meantime.
So why JLC didn't change RDM? I have two mutually exclusive reasons:
i) RDM only sells in low volume. It's not worthwhile to design a new casing and dial for something people rarely buy,
ii) RDM sells like hotcake and you don't change a winning formula.
In the end I don't know why, and I only know my RDM is a good looking watch.
This message has been edited by MartyW on 2009-10-01 11:13:28
Master RMD - advice sought
I am new to the forum and wanted to canvas members' views on the following. My wife has asked me to choose a watch for my 40th birthday. After much research I have settled on the JLC Master series, because I like watches to be descrete and elegant. Howeve...
Correct, MJT
I can't agree more with you on the fact that the only silly question is the one you don't ask. You will see here a lot of fans of the RDM. I woldn't say that it houses " sought after " complications, but it is indeed a lovely and very temtping watch. The ...
Why power reserve?
MJT, If you have a watch winder and the watch will be on it all the time when not on the wrist, then the power meter is not that useful. However if your expected Master Reserve de Marche is not something you wear all the time and you don't use a watch win...
Could you elaborate?
Thanks both. In relation to complications being "sought after", I was asking in general rather than specifically in relation to the RDM. I figured that maybe complications were seen by officianados as desirable because they represent a greater level of te...
MUT without date
MJT, Yes, you are right that neither of the MUTs has a date window. I now understand why you haven't mentioned them in your OP. I don't know much about the inner working of the reserve de marche complication, and so I can't comment on it. But you are also...
Perhaps reconsider the MUT?
Welcome to the Forum. In selecting to go with a JLC you have chosen wisely, and I think you will not go wrong no matter which you choose. If I had a wrist size like yours, I would go for the MUT (original 34mm version) without any hesitation whatsoever. N...
Does JLC still manufacture a 34m version?
Thanks respo. Is the 34mm version still available new (do JLC still make them?) or would I have to source one pre-owned? I don't feel confident enough to go down the pre-owned route, so it's an important consideration. Also, I'm looking at SS only, for bu...
Not anymore in the 2009 Catalogue,
But : 1/ Even if it is discontinued, you can find one new in box easily at your AD or at a JLC Boutique. 2/ When the new MUTs were presented ( 2008 ), it was not planned to stop the MUT 34 mm. Will have to ask to JLC. Best, Nicolas
Yes, I believe the 34mm MUT is still in production and...
available in stainless steel. The 34mm MUT is still listed on the JLC website at any rate. In any case, and as Nicolas already pointed out, I think you should have no problem locating a new one from an AD if you wish, so you can avoid the secondhand marke...
ok, well, I will give it a try
along with the RDM for comparison. ... although I note the MUT is more expensive than the RDM :-(
I am not sure about that...
I was under the impression that the 34mm MUT is actually a little less expensive than the RDM if you are comparing stainless steel on a leather strap for both models. I could be wrong, however. respo
Naaah
The MUT is around 500 Euros less expensive than the Master RDM ( both in SS, of course ). Best, Nicolas
well that is good news
also, how do the movements compare in each? I gather from another post in this thread that the RDM has an updated movement but the MUT uses an existing (older) one?
Are you more Automatic or Manual movement?
The Cal 938 is a nice movement, but I would rate the Manual Cal 849 above. This is a superb caliber, with a nicer finish compared to the Cal 938. Therefore, you don't have to forget that Ultra Thin movements are a kind of defy. With 1, 85 mm thick, the 84...
Marcelo, that's a very nice watch
... not to mention a fantastic picture - great camera work. I have to tell you it's been a frustrating search. Having decided on a JLC I then discovered that the Master range is all 40mm or larger (and, as I mentioned, too big for my wrist). What I'd love...
It’s not just you, MJT
I’ve been curious about that too for quite some time too... Maybe some of our fellows can enlighten us And thanks for the kind words on my picture – if you knew the camera I used to take it you wouldn’t believe me... Marcelo
The Mut 1st generation is 34 mm
The MUT new version is 38 mm... Master RDM apart, yes, all the other are around 40 mm, or a bit more. It seems to be the new standard for watches. Best, Nicolas
But why enlarge all models except one?
Nicolas, that would be logical if every watch in the line was 40mm or larger, but what I don't get is why the RDM should have stayed smaller. Why would you enlarge all but one of your models?
Maybe because it will not stay
In the catalogue? This is just my guess, it is the only reason which comes to my mind. It has been a long time in the catalogue without any change, by the way... Best, Nicolas
I don't know why either
why the RDM stays as it is. But I am not complaining. When JLC came out with the ceramic ball bearing, autoractor and free-sprung balance, what we have was A) 37mm Master Grand Taille discontinued, now it's Master Control at 40mm, B) 38mm Master Geographi...
Here's a thought....
I sold (and miss greatly) the Master Moon with silver dial. You could look for a used one. It's a GREAT daily watch. -Dean
Nice reasoning, Marty!
Especially your “mutually exclusive reasons”. Marcelo This message has been edited by marcelo on 2009-10-02 17:00:50
MUT and Hometime
I just got my MUT 34mm and am loving it more daily....so expectedly I would highly recommend it. You would have read all the good things about it. The other suggestion is for the old Master Hometime, which I also own. Its a great watch where you have the ...
MUT 34mm vs Zenith Elite automatic
Ok, well I finally got to try on the MUT 34mm today. It is very nice indeed. The lady at the AD also showed me a Zenith Elite Automatic (01.1125.680/01.C490). It is similar in style and size to the JLC, but with a date and second hand (I'm quite keen on a...
As so many others have said, the RMD is
a superb watch, and of course if it steals your heart, then so you should pursue this one! That said, it seems you are open to considering other options, and I think the 34mm Ultrathin is worth examining. You are especially well positioned to enjoy this w...
One final question
Have members used xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx? It's an online dealer which seems to be about xx% cheaper than ADs. I just want to check that it's legit. ***GREY MARKET DEALER DELETED PER FORUM RULES**** This message has been edited by DRMW on 2009-10-03 11:53:59
Please also note that per our forum rules, we
Never give bad or good points ( references ) to sellers. Some Web Sites do, not us. Best, Nicolas