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Patek 5800
I’ve never seriously thought about buying a 5711, both because of the availability issues (and gray market prices) and because 43mm seems like a serious stretch for my 6 inch wrist. But I did try on a 5800 back in the day, and it fit rather well. The 5800 is obviously not in production anymore (a shame), so I’d have to buy it pre-owned, but the prices seem nearly as stratospheric as those for the 5711. How do people feel about the value proposition of the 5800? I worry sometimes that smaller versions of contemporaneously produced watches get less love from collectors over the long term — for example, the Royal Oak 15450 37mm (the only version that fits me) is sometimes styled as a “ladies’ watch” and seems less appreciated than the larger variants. Curious to hear people’s thoughts.
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Patek 5800
I’ve never seriously thought about buying a 5711, both because of the availability issues (and gray market prices) and because 43mm seems like a serious stretch for my 6 inch wrist. But I did try on a 5800 back in the day, and it fit rather well. The 5800...
Wear what you want
Had a 5711 a number of years ago, and it was nice. I wish I could have ended as a one-watch collector. But then I saw a 37.5mm 3800 and wondered how that wore. I fell in love immediately. Same thing with an AP where I preferred the 36mm 14790 to the large...
Thanks!
The 14790 has always intrigued me, so maybe I will try to source one to see how it looks on me. The main thing about those older Royal Oaks is that they often show the wear and/or polishing of the years more than the Nautilus does—at least in photos. That...
Condition is important
I liked my full set and crisp case, though I picked the dial for its longer markers. But then I decided the 3800 served my needs. Now I do wish I kept the 14790 as well. ...
Beats me
That AP dial did degrade further 18 months later after I sold it. The new owner took it into the service center and scoffed at their quote to open the case, and promptly left with his untouched piece!
You still made a good decision. For a reason i dont really understand right now, but i still think its good that way.
Maybe someone would have robbed you or whatever. The Nautilus sits even a bit better on your wrist anyway.
I think you are right with your anticipation of what collectors think.
On the other hand, the 5800 is just as expensive as the 5711 so for now, there is not much of a difference between the two. You should obviously buy what you like, but have you really tried the 5711? It wears really small because of the specific style of ...
Thanks, and believe it or not
I’m not sure I ever have tried on a 5711, in part because you obviously never seen them in an AD. But wise counsel to check that box before concluding that it won’t fit as well.
If you talk about taste...
...then it is of course a personal issue and every opinion is relevant. I personally like 15450 or 14790 as much as 15202 but it depends what size fits your wrist better. The same obviously applies to 5800 vs 5711. But if your question is about market val...
Fair enough
The motivation for that rule is sound, because we don’t want this forum to become about the money rather than the watches. But the word “value” appears in the Patek forum more than any other, and for good reason. The price points we’re talking about here ...
I actually read it like this: we are allowed to talk prices, but it should never be the major focus.
So this has clearly been the case: we talked about size, style, collectors views and the price was a part, but only a minor part. Now read the terms of conduct. I does not say that this talk is not allowed, it just says it should not be our focus. Posts a...
Indeed...
...so when I read as only question in this post "How do people feel about the value proposition…" then I raise a warning flag to say please discuss what you think about the watches, about the smaller or bigger size attraction on the market but please do c...
I would also urge you to get the 5711on your wrist to really determine suitability.
My wrist is also on the small side and it wears quite well for me. I do think that overall the modern sized piece will always be the stronger in terms of interest and demand.
Personally.....
I rate the 5800 higher than the 5711. I say this not just because of its size which I find a lot more attractive but due to the fact that the 5800 was only produced for two to three years in 2006 to 2009 I think. To this day, it is the only watch I regret...
Can't go wrong with 5711 or 5800
If your wrist fits 5800 the best, go for it (be prepared for its HIGH price as you said 😫) Picture is not mine but I wear 5711 daily. ...
Concidering a 3800, however...
Concidering a 3800, however have been reading quite a few stories with concerns on the movement. Would be interested to hear your experience.