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so different
On paper these seem similar, both being black dial chronograph on white metal and leather strap. But that is where the similarities end for me.
They are both amazing and beautiful. If I was faced with the difficult task of deciding, the most important aspect would be why I am getting it. In what part of my lifestyle would my next piece fit. Where this addition would fall in with what I already have. When would I wear it. How does it fit into my lifestyle.
I have looked at the UpDown in the past and find it gorgeous. Love the dial. Love the movement. Love the colors. Love the pushers. Love platinum. Love the power reserve indicator. Lots to love on this piece. But it is a large watch. A bit in your face large for me and my lifestyle. And aside from the visual aspect of the larger size, the weight of platinum makes this top heavy. So, if I could compromise on the power reserve indicator I would go for the first Datograph. Sportier and somewhat less elegant but far better size. This is to me an extremely versatile piece. Looks far more amazing on the wrist than on the shelf or on a picture.
In terms of the 5170G in black. Simply astounding. Love it. Love the dial. Love the movement. Love the colors. Love the pushers. Love the case. Love the elegance. I have not yet seen it in real life so can no comment on how it looks on the wrist but no doubt sublime. I know we are not to discuss much about value, but there is something to be said. To keep it short, I hope Patek will do what they did with the black dial 5960. Keep production run reasonable and reward loyal fans who place orders with their ADs. The amount of 5170J and 5170G in white available at steep discounts on the secondary market shows production has been way over demand. Every other AD seem to have these on display as well. They are gorgeous nevertheless in both metals I must say.
Now, decision time. For me the UpDown is already out but have place the original Dato on the stand up against the 5170G in black. My questions would be the following:
- how does it fit into my lifestyle?
- what place would it fall in with what I already have?
- for what purpose would I be getting it?
To be honest I want both the original Dato and the 5170G. Both amazing. The Dato would work better in terms of lifestyle. It could easily become my first or second choice for daily wearer due it being so versatile. Possibly it would collide with my regular favorite the 5960P, but the identity of the dial is so different that there could be room for it. Hmmm... The 5170G is so elegant and so special. But for me it would be a watch worn occasionally and spend far more time in the safe than on the wrist. But it would be very special when taken out so would definitely put its mark there. Given the choice right now, especially given I am happy with my regular wearers, for me the choice would be 5170G black. But this is mostly because I am happy with my regular pieces and do not have anything like the 5170G.
Enjoy your decision making and do let us know what you end up with! Perhaps it will be something altogether different.
Lange datograph vs. patek 5170 black
I'm trying to decide on the next chronograph purchase. These 2 pieces are really superb and so similar; the black dials, 30 minute timer subdials, manual wind, beautiful movements, similar pricing. I am leaninbg towards datograph because of the added date...
Very interesting choice
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39mm Dato Flyback
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5170G
5170G Pros : slimmer, clean pure dial, breguet numerals, best feeling for triggering/stop/reset, sits better on the wrist, nicer case Datograph : windows date, nicer movement finishing, BUT... Too thick/bulky, dial not as balanced as the original model, f...
I would lean towards the Patek because of the same reasons.
If now you were comparing the Dato first generation with the Patek, I would have said Lange! But to each his own, it is up to you to decide since you are the one to pay. ;) Best, Nicolas
For me 5170G
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Dato and here is why
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The Dato wins by a mile...
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Well Babka, I think that Patek enthusiasts will appreciate...
...reading you: "I think many people buy Pateks only for name recognition and holding value. " Maybe not, there is much more to see in a Patek :) I respect your opinion, and I quite understand some of it by the way. But I'd like to say one or two things m...
New version Lange for me………
Having tried one on, I loved everything about it. Naturally, it's going to feel heavy, but for me he size is just right & the lay out of the dial is just perfect. The pushers are butter smooth to operate and the additional PR feature is a winner. Grea...
so different
On paper these seem similar, both being black dial chronograph on white metal and leather strap. But that is where the similarities end for me. They are both amazing and beautiful. If I was faced with the difficult task of deciding, the most important asp...
I quite recognize myself in your thoughts
and the size matter, when dealing with comfort, is something people talk a lot about. Thanks for detailing your opinion :) Cheers, Mark
Hope I can help you with a picture.
Or 8.. :-) Just a few pics. Hope you guys don't mind ;-) All I know is it is a lovely watch! I know I'm biased because I got my 5170G white dial last week. The black dial version is very nice too. But the choice between this watch and the Lange Datograph ...
Dato
for me... however if we are comparing that to the 5070G, then I'll go for the latter. I feel the Dato (old or new) has much more of a wrist presence and only the 5070 could match that. As for the movement, the Dato is much more beautiful. Moreover, in ter...
not sure about other chrono but I've always
thought the Datograph is the best chrono for me. But between brands, I wear my Patek frequently as it feels like a 'everyday' watch, and the Dato, the special occasion type, just me. Mech. ...