Patek Philippe

The 5960 is an awesome watch with some very usual complications, beautiful dial... I have noticed the recent prices at auction to be dropping like a stone for the PT model. Any particular reason? is it an unloved watch? Any thoughts anyone?

5960P is for sale "everywhere". But if you like the watch, why don't you utilize the opportunity? Best, Kari

althought the 5980 is more in my budget

I would assume spontaneously: peolpe settle possibly more comfortably with a new RG from the AD instead buying a used one, that also needs servicing on top for the same price. Or: the other versions are simply nicer! Regards Moritz

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haha! 3970 is the top for me.. I agree with you 100% but here again it is a couple of notches above price wise than the 5960. I actually do prefer smaller size too so to me it is a no brainer but for the price Watches are like anything in life, very easy ... 

Why just think/dream of a 3970, the size is great, the dial is simple for so many complications, etc. Was thinking of a 5004R yet the dial seemed a bit to 'cramped' due to the numerals (in other words, not enough 'white space'). So agree, the 3970 is a wo...  

lucky you!

is the main cause I heard. When the Pt model was first introduced, there was such big demand (of course, many just want to flip it to make some bugs) and Patek made as many the market asked for. Then a few years on, people who are not really watch lovers ... 

are cashing out of the 5970 as well. At a recent auction in HK, I think there were 5 pieces altogether and the last one didn't even reach reserve. F

Fernando, I want to bring that point out as well. With the 5270 coming in, 5970 will not have prices going up like crazy anymore, probably perform like the 3970. I guess the total production vol of 5970 is quite high.

this one is getting more and more expensive, the 5170 didn't stop it

The 5970 was produced from around 2005 to 2010 in limited numbers. The p came out last in 2009. I believe the j came out in 2008. The g and r came out earlier than 2008 but ended by 2007, I believe. The 3970 was produced from the early 1990's until 2004 s... 

why do you concern yourself with WHY the prices are dropping. there is a old chinese saying "Price rise buyer bitch and moan, Price drop buyer run and hide". if you have been following the auctions, i assume you have been googling and surfing for dealers ... 

But I do feel there is a tiny grain of truth in it... Best, Horo

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Best, Horo

I am fortunate to own this watch for nearly a year now and can't say enough good things about it. I own the blue dial version and for the past few months it has become my daily wearer, I try to rotate it with my other watches but I'm constantly drawn to t...