. . . their clannishness and devotion are inexplicable, but at least they're good sports. I think Al's and Geo's point is that Rolex fans have a reputation for taking an "us-vs-them" attitude towards the rest of the community, and I have no reason to doubt them, especially as it seems they have considerable experience with other Rolex forums. I can't argue with the experience of Al and Geo, but I like to think that there's at least a possibility that a civil Rolex forum can find fertile ground here - and I'm a pessimist by nature! Cordially, Art