Bill
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Some simple answers
Gilt refers to the gold writing on the dial which does include silver as such it two color gilt.
4 line is simply 4 lines of text above 6 o'clock there are models with two lines of text usually you don't call out two lines but you do 4 lines.
Chapter ring is the out side circle on the dial were the index markers are withing the circle vs the index markers reach the end of the dial
Gilt is also a way to define an era for Rolex as gilt dials ended approx 1966 then they went to matt dials. Gilt dials also had glossy black paint and the gilt is actually below the black paint rather than on top as it is put on the dial prior and the black is not painted in those negative areas so when you look at the dial from the side the paint profile drops down like a crater outlining the text.
I hope this explains a little.
Bill
Rolex 5512 gilt 4 line chapter ring - the Mack Daddy of the 5512's
This is one of those reference watches that have great appeal with the vintage Rolex collectors. In pristine condition it gives all of the pleasures The gentleman\'s tool watch promises. The substantial feel it provides on the wrist while the glistening g...
It is a pleasure to share with you the old watches. Or should we say grand dame.
Best wishes for 2015. Health and happiness. Bill
Hard not to fall for this one.
Did you notice the crown shape on the dial? Best for 2015 Bill
If I could only have...
...one vintage Rolex, it would be this! There is everything in it! Bill, enjoy your watches and your life to the fullest in 2015 and beyond!
Beyond words pal
This piece is perfect! Look at the patina, matches throughout, the lume, the hands etc... The dial looks flawless (at least to my eyes)! and it is a rare piece the least to say... Enjoy this in good health Bill. Thanks for sharing such a great time piece,...
Excellent observation. I will add one thing.
It is not widely know but this is a rare crown on the dial known as a tulip crown. Bill
Tulip Crown?
Tulip Crown? Thanks Bill. I have learned something new today, or in fact, everyday something new on vintage Rolex! LOL Actually, I wanted to ask if the coronet is a "Frog Leg" coronet that was spotted on the 1655 (I think??). Good thing I didn't, else wou...
The only dumb questions are.....
The ones you don\'t ask. The tulip is a little like the bart simpson on mid 1960\'s gilt 5513. The bart is a little less elegant hence the tulip designation. Bill
Thank Bill :)
So mid 60s Gilt Dial 5513 aside, the Tulip Crown can be found in a 5512 too? Gilt Dial and mid 60s as well? thanks Bill.
Tulip vs standard crown Rolex 5512 4 line gilt.
This picture helps to illustrate the two crown shapes of the rolex 5512 4 line. The tulip is quite rare never see another in person. On the left tulip right is the standard. Bill 5512 gilt four line ...
Tulip crown...
Thanks Bill for the explanation and letting us have the benefit of your knowledge, excellent as always. Putting both side by side, immediately the difference in the coronet becomes obvious.. really a nice piece you have there Bill. Wear it in good health ...
not sure but...
hard to tell from picture but does not look as "flat" as the tulip coronets i have seen, or that as on my 61 sub. again not a great pic to tell from, but i trust you can tell from your end.
tulip crown?
better pic of that specific tulip crown sub in this pic? Does not look as "flat" on top as others? thanks!
Not sure which tulip crown you are referring to
Here is another picture of mine based on the first in the tread. It is pretty clear. Bill ...
its the tulip crown identified on the left of that pic,,,
that shows a side by side comparison, that doesn't look that "flat" on top. must be angle, light, crystal etc. sorry for confusion
Not sure which watch of the various 5512 show you think is not tulip.
Here is the one that is a Rolex 5512 tulip dial. You can clearly see the shape of the crown. Bill ...
Not sure which watch of the various 5512 show you think is not tulip.
sorry, I don't doubt its tulip, but, its the side by side comparison pic you posted that the crown does not look as flat. certainly not as distinctly flat as the "water shot pic", to my aging eyes anyway. shows how pictures can be deceiving. thanks
Looking back at the images they may be mislabled.
the one in question is the one over the water shot. I do have another 4 line non tulip which I think is pictured so you are right I will have to retake the picture because what was shown was a non chapter by the chapter but my goal was to have two chapter...
Rolex 5512 gilt 4 line chapter ring...don't know what that means....
but it sure sounds sophisticated and looks good. Congratulations for owning this nice vintage. All the best in 2015. Rgds Raymond
Some simple answers
Gilt refers to the gold writing on the dial which does include silver as such it two color gilt. 4 line is simply 4 lines of text above 6 o'clock there are models with two lines of text usually you don't call out two lines but you do 4 lines. Chapter ring...
What an amazing and pristine 4 line 5512
I think the tulip crown were only produced in 61, if I'm not mistaken. Gilt 4 line 5512, Chapter Ring, PCG is one of my all time favorite Subs. Enjoy it in good health. All best, Leon
You hit it on the nail
1961 is correct. Not too many around so hard to say never with Rolex. Bill
The tulip...... amazing pc Bill
4 liners 5512 is one of the most sought after sub. Yours is simply gorgeous. mine is only a 2 liner with same tulip crown. Hope you hv a great 2015 Bill Best iceman ...
While you are at it AND if you want to bury me, you should...
Take some time to have a nice photo session. And post it.... ;) Best, Nicolas
Your Chocolate 2 line 5512 is a killer
That is a real beauty without a doubt. Best wishes to you for 2015. Looking forward to sharing more. Bill
Tropical dial
Hi Iceman, A Tropical dial I assume? Nicely and smoothly faded. I have seen a few tropical dials over the years but most look like they had peeled off over time with very rough surface- like dial (like the road tar !). And yours (to my amaturish eyes at l...
Hi there
i hv not scientific reason why my tropicaldial is smooth and even . Each dial change color differently. Mine just happens to "AGED" perfectly. Best Iceman
Aged gracefully...
Hi, You beautiful timepiece lends a new meaning to this term, age gracefully. Looks like a watch's dial is just like human, some aged "horrendously", others gracefully LOL enjoy it in the best of health ;-)
I love this watch Bill!! Four liner and chapter ring gives this ...
... particular early version a very special and charming look. Your particular example is wonderful! I wish I could find one in such a condition and same characteristics some day. Not easy I know! But of course a jewel in any Rolex Submariner collection w...
The early 5512 have a lot of charm for sure
The hunt is always long and luck need to be on your side. I am very happy to the set. while they are very close they have a very differnt feel unlike some other watches in my collection which are mirror duplicates. Best wishes to you and health and prospe...
4 lines tulip crown ???
f.. ing rare indeed !! probably rare as the earliest 4 lines ( " all silver " ) like this : please note the damned Beyeler coronet , very famous nowadays ..LOL LOL LOL ...
Very nice rolex 5512 gilt
And all silver looking like a queen. Love to see and hear more. Bill
Beautiful background for a most beautiful timepiece Bill! A 5512 with...
... gloss dial, gilt, chapter ring and 4 lines epitomizes the spirit of the first crown guards Submariner. It is one of the grails of a Sub collection in my opinion. A version I have been coveting for long and very elusive to me as they are very very rare...
Thank you for the kind words
It is true the 5512 gilt chapter 4 line has a lot of charm but the 2 line chapter is a great also. B0th are hard to find in great condition. I would also say the same of most gilt even non chapter when in pristine condition are fetching a very high price ...
Thank you so much for your kind comments Bill! Though I usually like the cleaner dials of the two lines watches, in the particular case of the reference...
... 5512 I like the four lines best. I also love the first series with chapter ring. I already own a 5512 two lines with chapter ring, but its dial is a so called "tiger" with patina. I would love to find a completely pristine gloss, gilt, chapter ring fo...
