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this one i like
I don't see this vintage in any way inferior to a submariner. It's a tough toolwatch that really conforms to all a diver will want, and i find the hour hand design incredibly legible.
Vintages are like art, appreciated out of context and composition. The context part is strong, with it's affinity to the military, and the composition, well, only lacking in terms of the ETA movement. Were this to house a Rolex movement then, wow, the value might be on par with the vintage subs.
Tudor has to forge a strong brand identity and look to it's roots. I feel that it's present brand direction and message is diluting the brand's strong history and it should be marketed as a strong subset of the Rolex group, instead of shunning it's affiliation. While the vintage subs can be compared to the porsche 64, the Tudor Sub is like the little sister, the beetle. So perhaps, looking towards the successful differenciation and association of Porsche-Volkwaagen will help.
The TUDOR Submariner Marine Nationale Ref 94010.
We very often post topics about the Military Submariners or the Comex, as Legendary Rolex Watches. Of course, they deserve such posts, and admiration, but if History makes these watches so exciting, there is another contender to consider, the Tudor Submar...
They are both very tempting, Stefan
And I really wonder if I won't end with both of them... Best, my friend. Nicolas
this one i like
I don't see this vintage in any way inferior to a submariner. It's a tough toolwatch that really conforms to all a diver will want, and i find the hour hand design incredibly legible. Vintages are like art, appreciated out of context and composition. The ...
Nicely put, Cookies, and interesting thoughts, too
Well, I don't know Tudor enough to have a definitive point of view on their modern production. But the more I dig into the past of this brand, the more I appreciate some of their products, like this Tudor MN, or some awesome non crownguard Subs, too. The ...
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And fantastic posts elicit passionate replies.Agree abt ETA,it was probably advanced in that era and context.Great post, Nic!
A great vintage.....
for sure.....but.... as I already told you, my choice would have been the other (round) one..... However I do like the creamy indexes... and you are right... the snow flakes has a harder look and more unusual.... the round a softer/elegant look ..... howe...
I'm not a big fan of their current line, PP
But I have to have a deeper view on them. Look, I didn't pay attention to these Vintage marvels till...Recently, I have to admit. I fear I will end with both of these MNs... Best, my friend. Nicolas
A very nice review .... .
This 'blue' is to die for ... nice WS also ... . thanks Nicolas filip
Snow Flake
I'm glad you got the Snow Flake, I much prefer that to the Mercedes hands. I actually prefer the MN Tudors to many of the Rolex issued watches. They are somehow more...appropriate (?) for the purpose. The fact that they are less recognised, and recognisab...
I don't know the correct strap for this MN, Ben
But now that you asked, I will make some searches to try to find something about this. As for this MN, you said it perfectly, these are the reasons why, instinctively, I went for this one. But the other has its charm...too. Best, my friend. Nicolas
MN Tudor straps
It is my understanding that these Tudors, like many MN watches, were often worn on what is known as a "Nageurs de combat" strap, made out of the elastic used on parachute straps. They were made by the servicemen themselves. You can still buy them from a m...
Thanks a lot for your input, Jon
Will try to get an original one. I knew about the bracelet, but I had doubts about the straps. Now, I know... Welcome here, by the way! Looking forward to hear more from you, Best, Nicolas
Nageur straps
Thank you for the welcome Nicolas. I will ask my friend in Paris to find out when the shop will have more Nageur straps in stock and if you want one, I'm sure I can twist his arm to help. By the way, that Register looks very interesting - I would like to ...
That would be great!
Thanks a lot! As for the Register, please PM me when the PMs will still work, which will take a few days... Best, Nicolas
Beautiful!!!! Yesssss they are great watches!!!!!
Fantastic watch!!! Enjoy!!! Snowflake rules!!! ANd they have seen history... Big congrats!!! Now you need some of those .... LOOOL! ready to go... ;-) Some MN......
Aaaah, Bernhard, this is another chapter I hope to be able to open.
Soon... I'm hunting the right Depth Gauge and Compass for this one. If I can get a torch and a knife... Impressive pics, my friend. Do you always manage to get all the " environment " of each watch you hunt? That's a great habit! Best, Nicolas
It's about more then just watches....
Great hunt for you! It's real coooooool.... and rarrrrreeeeeeeeee stuff! As it was never for sale. And like the suite from MN i had... was often cut loose on missions... so rare to get. But indeed... it's real great to have that for those special watches!...
Really congrats, my lucky friend!
And thanks for this nice and great post!. This watch is really nice, strong and has a true history behind.... what more?? The snowflake version is awesome, and yours is in a really great and nice condition! Congrats again, hermano Emilio
If only you could spend one more day in Paris,
You would have seen it in the flesh! Thanks for your very nice words, Hermano. Much appreciated. Nicolas
Great post..
...With a really nice Tudor at its best. Tudor might be the "little sister", but for sure is a watchbrand with its own genetics and history Thankyou for sharing, and congratulations on this really nice "bluish watch" Nicolas Cheers Hans
It was time to try to give the Tudor MN some Justice!
And I can tell you that the more I see and wear it, the more I love it. A very special watch, due to its original look. Thanks for your nice comment, Hans. Best, Nicolas
What a cool and unique watch, Nicolas!
I've never seen this one, but I sure like it. The markers and hands are great. Congrats! Jeff
Well, Jeff, there were
Some pieces which are not Military. This is not a rare version, but a pretty cool one, indeed. Yes, a watch to discover or re discover. Thanks for your input. Nicolas
The pictures you've taken...
...make a compelling case in support of your decision to choose the snowflake dial over the more elegant (IMO) round/triangle dial. The large indices are bold and demand your attention. I particularly like your choice of matching blue NATO for the strap. ...
I agree with you, Daos, on the fact that the other blue dialed MN
Is more elegant. That was part of my dilemma. But the Strength of these Snow Flakes made me prefer this last one. Maybe I'll add the other one, too, to solve my dilemma? Best, Nicolas
love the snowflake
It is so understated, yet it is rare, military, great to look at and draws attention with its unique color and markers. I would love to own one some day...
It would indeed be a piece dign to be included
In your awesome collection, Steven. I' m sure you will fall in love with its strong and bestial Beauty. Best, my friend. Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2010-01-16 11:35:54
Superb!
Hello, Nico! Congratulations on yet another great piece of history! The link between military forces and Tudor is one the brand should emphasize more. As you very well said, the history behind them is quite extensive and enough to earn the respect of all ...
Hey, Alex, my friend
Thanks a lot for your nice words, Alex. The sad thing is that I agree with you on the modern Tudors. But isn't it the same with the Modern Rolex? Best, Hermano. Nicolas
Great Report on the TUDOR Submariner Marine Nationale 94010
I love the dial and I am happy I have one - not the 94010 but the 94110. I am glad I found this report again. Bill
No problem, my friend !.. Dr Mamadu's pills.. And total coolness.. ;))
.. will do the job Best, hs Cool like ice... :)) ;) ...
Wow Nicolas! No need to tell you how much I enjoyed...
... reading and viewing this superb post about the MN Tudor!! I also found very interesting past post of Jeff about this subject. Truly, Tudor Submariners deserve the interest of collectors. Your post makes this clear! I will be re reading this outstandin...
El placer es mio mi amigo Nicolas! ... I sincerely wish that...
... you keep both watches shown for your collection! By the way, I wish to show you again my Tudor "argentino Ci" with a riveted Oyster bracelet I got from my spare parts box, in change of the leather straps it got when I showed it a few weeks ago. I made...
I think that I have to find my Ci
But I also have to find a nice MN, as this one has gone in a friendly house. Not that easy to find a nice one. As for your strap, perfect! Un abrazo, Amigo moi. Nicolas.
Thank you for your kind answer Nicolas...
... Nice to know you like the Oyster on my watch! As for the Ci it will arrive... I have no doubt about that! Un abrazo mi amigo! Abel.