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Excellent post Bernard!

 

Well documented and explained.
Aspects of fine watchmaking that aren't allways appreciated and understood by collectors.
I think your support of the Independents is honorable, as they need patrons like yourself to succeed.
Like your second to last line says, they don't have the "over investment in advertising" or marketing I might add, to spoil an honest trade/craft/art form.
Cheers,
Tim

P.S. I might add that I have huge respect for UN, as a brand, that has forged ahead with some designs that don't allways become a hit with collectors. It allows them to innovate and create piece like the Freak or the Sonata, which advances the artistry and science of watchmaking.
A good thing for collectors. Cheers! This message has been edited by Tim Jackson on 2013-07-03 17:33:12

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1 the pins of a high end watch, and why we pay so much money

 
By: bernard cheong : July 2nd, 2013-23:24
The pins of a good, expensively made, costly, time consuming wristwatch that was put together demands a certain "honesty". This is something MOST consumers assume is done. The PINS are probably the most revealing of how much care has been put in. NOT all ...  

Incredible

 
By: MWL : July 3rd, 2013-01:06
Just goes to show the dedication poured into all aspects of each piece. Even if I never take such a close look at each individual screw, its good to know that someone has spent time ensuring that it looks perfect.

Thanks. I will try to look thru my hard drives for more.

 
By: bernard cheong : July 3rd, 2013-01:33
Just to share. If I never encountered the world of meticulous perfection in watchmaking, I would not have had a chance to meet and understand folks who are obsessed with "details" and precision to this degree, for use in normal population , among normal m... 

Exactly

 
By: MWL : July 3rd, 2013-18:20
Even though the scale is small, it still allows accessibility. I wouldn't want to have to pick my way through an F-16 just to find the screws.

lol

 
By: felixcrabtree : July 3rd, 2013-04:15
as a soon to be watchmaker i had no idea what you were talking about when you said pins, then i realised you were talking about pivots. let me tell you making pivots and finishing them properly is harder than you make it sound here! i have a english lever... 

YES. You are right on.

 
By: bernard cheong : July 3rd, 2013-17:52
I spent a few days with Philip Dufour ( early in 2000-2004) and with another SEIKO maker, and what you said is CORRECT.

I thought you were talking about the locating pins

 
By: ei8htohms : July 4th, 2013-09:53
Are you talking about pivots or the (simpler) locating pins/posts that are used to position the bridges and plates? _john

Yes. The locating pins were my main focus.

 
By: bernard cheong : July 4th, 2013-17:50
The pinion shafts are only slightly more difficult, after all the trouble.

Yeah. Max was modest. He never explained himself, because

 
By: bernard cheong : July 3rd, 2013-17:50
I think he assumed that the EAST, the buyer already knew. He was about 60% correct. Many MB&F owners buy the watches because of the EXTREME prestige...I really mean it. In China or anywhere here in Asia, Pateks are bought to KEEP...and sell. MB&F ... 

Excellent post Bernard!

 
By: Tim Jackson : July 3rd, 2013-17:29
Well documented and explained. Aspects of fine watchmaking that aren't allways appreciated and understood by collectors. I think your support of the Independents is honorable, as they need patrons like yourself to succeed. Like your second to last line sa... 

HOLY Smokes!

 
By: Nicko16 : July 3rd, 2013-20:51
Very interesting and mind boggling. Makes me want to purchase a decent loupe :)