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Today i had the pleasure of giving the 1M a good blast !
Or would you guys wait for number 5 ?
Which one of these 4 cars would you prefer ?
Today i had the pleasure of giving the 1M a good blast !
Well, i wouldn't call it a real blast as this is the only one out of these 4 cars that's not mine. The 6 in line 3 liter turbocharged engine is a jewel, 340 hp and a lot of torque give it wings, bear in mind this car weighs probably over 1500 kilos. Driving it fairly rapid one quickly appreciates the well sorted M-suspensio, i left all the 'systems' on after i noticed that yellow light on the dash kept flashing even in third gear 
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.The 6 speed manual is great but not as good as the one in the clio RS, shifting gear feels like ... well .. like you're shifting gear in a BMW .
So it started this morning when i took all the 'junk' out for a good wash. Obviously when you have a wet car you must dry it by driving it as fast as you can ;-) !
Despite the 340 hp of the 1M, the 205's 85 hp never give you the feeling you're missing something. Would i choose the 205 ? Maybe, if i felt like i could drive it every day. It just doesn't feel solid enough to risk breaking it or risking my own life in modern traffic in a country where it rains one day out of two.
.So it started this morning when i took all the 'junk' out for a good wash. Obviously when you have a wet car you must dry it by driving it as fast as you can ;-) !
Despite the 340 hp of the 1M, the 205's 85 hp never give you the feeling you're missing something. Would i choose the 205 ? Maybe, if i felt like i could drive it every day. It just doesn't feel solid enough to risk breaking it or risking my own life in modern traffic in a country where it rains one day out of two.
The blue Beemer is as many of you guys already know my daily 120 diesel. No lack of power and torque with 190 hp and 400 Nm but you have to be a bit patient before it comes alive ... but when it comes alive it actually is faster than ....
... the Clio.
... the Clio.
The RS weighing 220 kilos less and boosting 11 hp more than the 120d is still the real deal in real life. Not overly fast so pretty maniable, but that normally aspirated 2 liter likes to rev till 7500 rpm and even beyond if you delete the rev limiter.
I managed to get the air out of one of the tires while doing some burnouts hitting the limiter in second gear ( i need to get rid of the 2 shitty Vredestein front tires i shouldn't have mounted in the first place).
Out of the 4 cars i think the Clio is also the one to take to the race track. Yes, the 1M will be faster but it will cost you some serious bucks as it will be rougher on the brakes and tyres and i seriously doubt you will have that much more fun.
So which one do you vote for ?
Out of the 4 cars i think the Clio is also the one to take to the race track. Yes, the 1M will be faster but it will cost you some serious bucks as it will be rougher on the brakes and tyres and i seriously doubt you will have that much more fun.
So which one do you vote for ?
1. BMW 1M - 340 hp / 500 Nm - 3 litre 6 pot twin turbo - RWD - 6 speed manual - 1500 kilo
2. Peugeot 205 XS - 85 hp / 120 Nm - 1,4 litre 4 pot twin choke carburettor - FWD - 5 speed manual - 810 kilo
3. BMW 120d - 190 hp / 400 Nm - 2 litre turbodiesel - RWD - 8 speed ZF automatic - 1460 kilo
4. Renaultsport (Alpine) Clio RS - 201 hp / 215 Nm - 2 litre NA petrol - FWD - 6 speed manual - 1240 kilo
Or would you guys wait for number 5 ?
;-)
Cheers,
Bim
Maybe ...
.. i should buy an empty 205 shell and put a bike engine in it ... a 1000 cc 200 hp BMW engine or something ... ALIVE and KICKING !
... ALIVE and KICKING !
One of my friend owned the 1.9 when we were young (or, at least, younger) and this 205 has something special in my mind
Best wishes
Alkiro
Alkiro
The torque was more important, but the driving feeling less fun. [nt]
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Ah, the GTI ...
My wet dream
There was a 1,6 for sale here in Belgium, it had some serious work done to the engine putting it at 1,9 power level and as Nicolas states being more alive, this one was probably the one to buy :-( .... .
But then ... my 1,4 XS is more alive than the 1,6 GTI ... and the 1,3 Rallye with 103 hp is seriously bonkers compared to any 205
There was a 1,6 for sale here in Belgium, it had some serious work done to the engine putting it at 1,9 power level and as Nicolas states being more alive, this one was probably the one to buy :-( .... .
But then ... my 1,4 XS is more alive than the 1,6 GTI ... and the 1,3 Rallye with 103 hp is seriously bonkers compared to any 205
A bit like this XS i have.
Did you know there are quite a lot of variants in the 205 XS ?
The one to have is the 85 hp with the TU3S carburettor, do you still remember which one you had ????
bim
agreed!
modern cars are too fat and bloated with safety features and electronics...I appreciate the need but for storming around, nothing beats a light manual, hence the driveability of Lotuses.
I soon agree with that one.
A small Elise preferably with the 220 hp engine .... the Alpine will be the same weight but more powerful ... but doubleclutch !
I would wait for Number 5 if manual gear box. If not the Renault Clio Sport. Full of life! [nt]
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Good choice !
Sadly the Alpine will be double clutch .... i have a feeling i will have to pas for the Alpine unless some money comes falling out of the sky.
Is that a bad thing ? Probably not, next year Renault will be presenting the new Megane RS sporting the same 1,8 liter turbocharged double clutched drivetrain as the Alpine .... say hello to the successor of my dieselBeemer ... and i will have some spare money for a Ducati. And one never knows if i find some 50K Euros under a matrass somewhere ;-) .
Sadly the Alpine will be double clutch .... i have a feeling i will have to pas for the Alpine unless some money comes falling out of the sky.
Is that a bad thing ? Probably not, next year Renault will be presenting the new Megane RS sporting the same 1,8 liter turbocharged double clutched drivetrain as the Alpine .... say hello to the successor of my dieselBeemer
... and i will have some spare money for a Ducati. And one never knows if i find some 50K Euros under a matrass somewhere ;-) .
I vote: Wait for the Alpine!
Be the first on your block - or in your country.
Cazalea
With two small children and a big dog none of the above ;-)
But if space wasn't an issue the 1M. Reliable RWD fun!