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A few pics of the Patek Philippe Calatrava 5212A
I will write later about this watch since it is my fav Patek from Baselworld 2019. A nice complication, an improved 324 movement (the 26-330), a lovely dial lay-out, this watch summarizes the Patek I like.
Fx
I understand what you're saying about the date window ...
... but I was thinking that it's a pretty busy dial. LOT's of Characters! I actually feel with this dial the white date aperture works well to clearly highlight this function.
Remove the index at 6 and put it there...
Better symmetry, but the number has to rotate to show upright.
And that is exactly what my partner who is a jewellery designer told me
I too do not like the date window and based on what she said, I re evaluated the watch and yes, the date window would reduce the dial being too cluttered. I have placed an order for one and hopefully when I do try it on, it will look as good as on Francois's wrist.
I think it looks good where it is ...
... and anywhere other than "3" o'clock or "6" o'clock gets confusing. The MORE important thing is that it appears that the same handwritten characters used elsewhere on the dial are also employed in the date aperture.
A date window would normally be a big no for me
but imagine a dial with 31 for the date and another with 53 for the number of weeks - it can be confusing at first glance.
I just knew you would say that NIco :-)
Not a bad idea except that if you watched the Patek video on the watch, Philip Barat (head of watch development) mentioned that having 5 hands, one on top of the other, was not an easy task so I assume adding a sixth would have been even more difficult.
Well, the dial is naturally loaded / busy when you have the day, the date, the month and the week! ;p [nt]
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After admiring this model once more
today I reached the conclusion that it deserved a different strap. It just does’t fit this classy watch properly. imho of course, all in all a matter of taste etc
I don't know if it's less light in the photos, but something with these hands looks too simple....
also moving the hours batons from the periphery towards the center of the dial...perhaps it's just me, but isn't that a bit disturbing..??
I found this to be a very interesting piece but impossible to photograph in the case
The idea of a weekly calendar is quite unusual. Certainly a watch to be part of a larger collection, but probably not one someone might want to own as their only Patek. I am also not a fan of the date window, but with this complication you need a date and I’m not sure how else it could be executed
5212A
Certainly different, I like it. I think it fits nicely in my collection and have asked my AD to order one.
Think it is every nice
and different without being oer the top unusual. It will fit in nicely with my collection...Jim
A question: is it an annual calendar jumping from the 30th to 1st on the shorter months?
Beautiful pictures Fx, thanks for sharing.
Definitely a beautiful watch and a good alternative to the current unattainable steel models, let's see the waiting list for this one 😫
Definitely a beautiful watch and a good alternative to the current unattainable steel models, let's see the waiting list for this one 😫
There are so many very nice triple calendar out there
and if it would not say Patek on the dial this one would go down completely unnoticed.
Maybe it looks better in real but it is as blund es it can get in my own, personal view.
To me it is looking like a Frederique Constant watch, not like a Patek.
A very rare case that I do not like a Patek ...
Maybe it looks better in real but it is as blund es it can get in my own, personal view.
To me it is looking like a Frederique Constant watch, not like a Patek.
A very rare case that I do not like a Patek ...
Interesting comparison, Count.
I’m not sure I’d go so far as to say it looks like a Constant-I see design cues from past Pateks. But this is seemingly an overcomplication of a complication that can be done so much more elegantly. (I’m not sure if my pun was intended or not.) This dial is very busy. And the white background in the date window contrasts harshly with the cream dial. I’m assuming the dial is cream based on these photos.
I also wonder why companies still make triple calendar watches. Everyone can-and does, it seems-make annual calendars. Certainly Patek. I would think adjusting this watch five times a year might get old. It has to be difficult.
I also wonder why companies still make triple calendar watches. Everyone can-and does, it seems-make annual calendars. Certainly Patek. I would think adjusting this watch five times a year might get old. It has to be difficult.
I do like some Frederique Constant watches, no offense there
Overcomplicated looking und too busy is not an issue for me per se, as I like the 5159 a lot, which has got quite an overloaded, to some even messy, dial.
In the 5159 case all is pleasing to my eye, yes a lot to read but pleasing to overlook all at the same time.
Another example was the one minute chrono from Patek's 175th anniversary: lovely!
This Calatrava gains much from being the first regular production steel model.
The design is simple and the stamped case adds even more simplicity to it.
Triple calendars like from Vacheron or Jaeger do have its charm and are generally more affordable than ACs.
I am sure there are precious metal ACs out there for what Patek is charching for this steel Calatrava.
In the 5159 case all is pleasing to my eye, yes a lot to read but pleasing to overlook all at the same time.
Another example was the one minute chrono from Patek's 175th anniversary: lovely!
This Calatrava gains much from being the first regular production steel model.
The design is simple and the stamped case adds even more simplicity to it.
Triple calendars like from Vacheron or Jaeger do have its charm and are generally more affordable than ACs.
I am sure there are precious metal ACs out there for what Patek is charching for this steel Calatrava.
totally agree, I think PP tried to bring here a contender to classic triple calendars....
from Blancpain or JLC....in my honest and humble opinion and in very direct words....they simply did not succeed...
In all fairness it seems the be the only one with
this type of dial and composition (day window with two pointers) but still the esthetics can not be called elegant or lavish, in my opinion, which applies to a BP, JL or VC calendar.