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Cast your mind back to when non-WIS weren't aware of the P, and when no one outside watch circles cared about Nautilus. When Patek was discretion and valour... Is there anyone else here who now feels the baggage around wearing hyped-up 'icons'?
The watch remains intrinsically and fundamentally the same. The things I like about it remain unchanged. However, it is the context and our feelings that change. As we go down our individual watch journeys, we also learn more about ourselves. Things and experiences are mere opportunities and gateways to insight and (hopefully) wisdom. Gordon asked previously, why after years of lurking did I decide to join 'the dark side'. Well, it was the hope of finding similarly-minded kindred spirits who might share such experiences.
Lots of Nautilus love here lately...
Sadly this piece hasn't seen daylight this year. It used to be an enjoyable Q-watch.
We live in such a graceless age... 😄
Hot pieces are like Swatch
They keep mechanical watchmaking alive and make people aspire to have a mechanical watch in the age when it is not needed and Apple Watch has 1000x more functionalities for a fraction of price.
I don’t have problem with them - the ‘hot piece fatigue’ only kicks in if you around very rich people all the time, and even then many will just go for Day Date.
I believe temporary (or even long term) trends shouldn’t affect how we live our passion as collectors, especially when it comes to a brand like Patek...
You are raising a rather common (and reasonable) concern, but in the end, as an enthusiast/connoisseur, I’m sure you are capable of viewing your Pateks independently of the hype Instagram has created around certain references...A 5711 should mean to us no more (and no less!) than it did 5 or 10 years ago😉🥂
I remember ,long time ago
ir was a shot of a P here or on the german forum IDK,it was like a black swan or an ancient legend!
I m really excited what will be the next contender ,maybe FPJ or one of the indies?time will tell(pun intended)
I m really excited what will be the next contender ,maybe FPJ or one of the indies?time will tell(pun intended)
I have the same feeling...
...I like any PP the same as before, but I would prefer the Nautilus not being so hyped. I had 5712 in 2007 already, when Rolex-nerds asked me, when I‘ll buy a decent watch. Now they ask me, how I got it, what I payed etc. I liked it more to be under the radar...
Excellent points all, thank you.
Fashions and feelings are ultimately ephemeral.
p.boxster: I got a kick out of your reply, very similar experiences 😂
I will be honest, it absolutely influences what I wear in certain company/circumstances.
There is some baggage as you call it associated with this watch and others.
Does it impact my desire or appreciation for the watch? I don’t think so. But it probably impacts my enjoyment.
I will also add, the price / market value has a direct correlation to the amount of baggage (using your term again). My Bape X Swatch watches are probably rarer by numbers, and in some circles may be equally or more desirable than the Nautilus, and perhaps more widely desirable, but given the price point the baggage is non existent.
Well said
Honestly as a “new customer” i find it a little frustrating to not be able to get certain watches because of the hype, but it didn’t change my view on PP, and it shouldn’t change anyone’s desire to put one on their wrist. It’s a market issue, the brand has nothing or very little to do with it.
I already accepted the fact that im going to pay the premium to have my first PP (5164a), hopefully I’ll make it happen soon.
The OG PT Nautilus is a dream watch, congratulations on owning such an incredible piece! If I’m not mistaken it is believed that production is around 15-20 pieces for this watch, is that right?
Congratulations again and thanks for sharing such a rarity, enjoy it in the best health!
I already accepted the fact that im going to pay the premium to have my first PP (5164a), hopefully I’ll make it happen soon.
The OG PT Nautilus is a dream watch, congratulations on owning such an incredible piece! If I’m not mistaken it is believed that production is around 15-20 pieces for this watch, is that right?
Congratulations again and thanks for sharing such a rarity, enjoy it in the best health!
Thank you...
If I have ruffled any feathers, I do humbly and sincerely apologise. That is the last thing I intend to do. I will keep these musings to myself going forward.
This watch was an unusual journey. I had to wait a little while to be allocated one. Some time later, the 40th anniversary pieces came out, and I, just like some of the other owners of this watch here, felt slightly irked. Then that feeling went away, only for Nautilus fever (or fervour?) to sweep in. The opposite end of the spectrum. But yet through it all, the watch remains the same. Funny isn't it?
You didn’t, I appreciate your words!
You didn’t, my friend! It’s always amazing to see more seasoned collectors into their journeys, and your thoughts and experience are very much appreciated.
If I said anything that made it look like you’ve said anything other than what you actually did, I apologize. English is not my native language, so sometimes i might write or put things in the wrong context unintentionally...
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, experience and superb pieces, wear it in the best health!
If I said anything that made it look like you’ve said anything other than what you actually did, I apologize. English is not my native language, so sometimes i might write or put things in the wrong context unintentionally...
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, experience and superb pieces, wear it in the best health!
Interesting question you asked ! IMO, most people are influenced by the majority.
Previously I did not have one. Since the 40th anniversary, the attention/hype placed the Nautilus has alerted and ignited my liking and appreciation of this watch.
Your photo looks superb and the bright blue dial is simply lovely.
Your photo looks superb and the bright blue dial is simply lovely.
Hey Gordon,
Thanks for the kind words. Yes, Naut Fever 🕺🏻. But is your first love still enamel?
Yes, enamel is the true ...
LOVE ❤️ for yours truly “enamel addict/slave” !😇
The Rousseau lion 🦁 above all !
The Rousseau lion 🦁 above all !
Wow,
Fabulous and absolutely stunning. Love the varying depths and shades of greens. And the strap choice is perfect 👍👏🏻
Legendary!
Ah yes, I recall. The watch certainly found the right owner! Enjoy your weekend!
Wow!
I remember you had your picture taken with her as well from the NY Grand Exhibition? That is truly amazing to own the watch and then have the creator of the watch in the same picture. I’m sure it will be cherished for years or even decades to come!
Anita and I met in Singapore 🇸🇬 where we took photos with Anita Porchet having...
signed the ownership certificate!
Agreed. I offered my 5711 to my father and even he turned it down in favour of an Accurust! [nt]
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Excuse my ignorance but ..
Can you enlighten me as to what are Q-watch and non-WIS ??
+1😂 In watch speak, WIS usually stands for Watch Idiot Savant (“watch nerd”), whence we have the “non-WIS”... But Q-watch is a first for me as well, unless it means quantum watch😂 [nt]
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Pardon the dated vernacular
Perhaps some kind soul could teach me the current vocabulary. Q-watch, the horological equivalent of Q-car, a sleeper... 😊