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Patek Philippe

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 12th, 2011-11:57

Was hoping one of you nice people could help me identify a watch I recently inherited.  It is a Patek Philippe Mens Watch.  Looks exactly like the 3992 model except it has a slate color face, white painted roman numerals and is white gold. I cannot find it anywhere online.  Did not come with papers and I did not open the back yet.

Thanks in advance!!

 

Picture?

 
 By: andrewluff : July 12th, 2011-12:31

Hi Maggie,

Can you post a picture as I am sure someone will be able to help.

Andrew

Pictures

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 12th, 2011-16:03

Thanks Andrew, but I have tried to upload a picture and I keep getting an error.

Picture

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 12th, 2011-18:08



I figured it out- so if anyone has any idea on this model I would certainly appreciate it.

Limited edition for Japan/Asian Market

 
 By: LarryFRCGP : July 13th, 2011-15:08
I owned a blue-dial version of it, told that this 3919G was made in 2 limited versions for Asian market : Slate gray and navy blue dial. I sold that later to a collector.

Hope it help,

Larry

It certainly helps. Thank you...

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 13th, 2011-16:30
It certainly helps. Thank you Larry.

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not a 3919

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 14th, 2011-12:07
So I looked into the 3919 model and that one has a second hand face (for lack fo the right term) at the bottom of the watch face- mine does not- so I do not think it is a 3919.  Any onther ideas?

Calatrava 5120 ?

 
 By: dreamer8 : July 14th, 2011-23:33

It could be a Calatrava 5120 with a calibre 240.If it is a 5120, it is an automatic not manual.Ultra thin , 35 mm. but i have not seen that blue dial.cheers,dreamer. This message has been edited by dreamer8 on 2011-07-14 23:57:20

Dont think it is a 5120 either

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 15th, 2011-06:11
It certainly looks like the 5120- just the numerals are not the same- these are painted on and not elongated like on the 5120.  The dial is more a slate/black than blue.  But thanks for the suggestion!

is the watch manual or automatic ?

 
 By: dreamer8 : July 16th, 2011-01:26
What diameter ? The 5120 is 35 mm.There is another calatrava 3520D with calibre 177 ( manual movement ) .It is 32.2 mm. in diameter.cheers,dreamer

It is manual. Don't think...

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 16th, 2011-05:24
It is manual. Don't think it is a 3520d either since the numerals are not the same. That is what keeps throwing me off. To me it looks the most like a 3992. But I just can't find one with the slate color face and in white gold to confirm. But thanks!!!

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patek

 
 By: 5212A : July 16th, 2011-07:06
nearly buy the same in montres modernes et collections in Paris.
See in the" historique des ventes " section, you'll find it.
Regards.
Samy.

hi Samy- I am not...

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 16th, 2011-07:51
hi Samy- I am not finding this section- I did Search on the term but could not find anything resembling this watch

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Not there

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 16th, 2011-08:14
I think I understand now what you are saying- I went on to their website and looked at all of the patek phillipe watches- even the ones already sold.  Not there.  Mystery still not solved smile

patek philippe

 
 By: 5212A : July 16th, 2011-08:50
Sorry gentlemen,
they didn't put it in the list yet because they sell it last week.
I cannot get the number.

Samy.

Ok I will wait a...

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 16th, 2011-13:50
Ok I will wait a few days and look again. Thanks so much!

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Progres

 
 By: 5212A : July 16th, 2011-22:27

Let s Check 3944 or 3524 on chrono24 website

Neither. One has a date...

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 17th, 2011-05:07
Neither. One has a date feature and the other has many features. This one has no features except to be elusive to figure out.

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still not found

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 22nd, 2011-08:08
Hello- I am still not able to locate the model number for this watch- any new ideas?

Hi, Maggie0127,

 
 By: masterspiece : July 24th, 2011-21:53
Sorry you haven't been able find out what your piece is. It could be a 4809 with 16-250 manual wind movement. Everything fits more to be along those lines with the one exception, the minute and hour hands. On the 4809 the hands are feuille (leaf) hands.

The overall look, without looking at the movement itself, may appear to be a 5120 but the roman numerals are too stout and thick. It could still be a 5120 and because of the black dial, the numerals may have had to be printed thicker for legibility and because it is harder to print on black. Wouldn't be a problem if they were applied but they are not.

So, I guess in short, you're still back to square one... unless you open up the back and take a look at the movement.

Aloha,

Bob

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Thank you Bob- I think...

 
 By: Maggie0127 : July 25th, 2011-05:29
Thank you Bob- I think opening the back is the only possible solution as well.  Thanks again.

 
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Fake

 
 By: watch-er : July 26th, 2011-11:02

Which raises the question. Examine the movement carefully

Yep. It could be a fake.

 
 By: masterspiece : July 27th, 2011-00:35
Can't really tell by the pix but it looks like she may have an original box with it.

Opening the back will tell it all, though!

Aloha,

Bob