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Our dear AndrewD posted something very special ...
and in case you didn´t already see it ...
Here we go, the PP Ref. 5105 with cal. 9-90:
Link to the original post: home.watchprosite.com /
Oliver
Here we go, the PP Ref. 5105 with cal. 9-90:
Link to the original post: home.watchprosite.com /
Oliver
Thank You...
for bringing this nice watch to our attention but if you could be so kind and explain why this watch and it's movement is so special?
Thank You in Advance,
S
The Ref. 5105 is inspired by the Ref. 492 from 1936 ...
and it is a limited edition of only 100 pieces. Created to celebrate the grand re-opening of the Salon Patek Philippe in Geneva. Designed around a long-lost cache of 100 Caliber 9-90 movements originally manufactured in 1950 - the last "real" rectangular movement from PP.
I like the look of the whole watch a lot, but I love that movement.
Enough information Salman? ;-)
Oliver
I like the look of the whole watch a lot, but I love that movement.
Enough information Salman? ;-)
Oliver
Appreciate the Information...
it is interesting to hear that it was the last "real" rectangular movement from PP, is there any particular benefit to using a rectangular movement vs. a regular circular movement?
I do agree it is a nice watch.
S
rectangular movement
Many purists feel that movement and case design should be in harmony, and I share that belief.
A round case should house a round movement and a rectangular case should ideally house a rectangular movement. Similarly there are those that feel that movement and case size should be a proper marriage as well. We see this principle frequently violated however by many of the finest watchmakers, I can only assume for reasons of economy. Why else would the 5196 at 37mm and 5123 at 38mm contain the same movement designed for a 31mm case? I suppose a solid caseback often solves the problem but for the purist it only hides the reality.
Movements that are appropriately sized and shaped for their cases are special, and this piece has both.
I can see the logic in that..
makes sense and aesthetically as well, a rectangular movement looks interesting.
S
Caliber 9-90 was in production ...
for about 34 years and they did two different series. Almost 18.000 movements have been made.
For some it stll is one of, if not THE, the finest tonneau shaped movement around. A true marvel.
Some gorgeous watches came with that movement. For example: Ref. 2441, 2469 ...
The successor (cal. 25-21; simple movement without complication) looks like a rectangular movement, but in fact it is based on (the round) caliber 215.
Well, not everybody cares about
Cheers,
Oliver
This message has been edited by small-luxury-world on 2013-07-15 07:48:00
For some it stll is one of, if not THE, the finest tonneau shaped movement around. A true marvel.
Some gorgeous watches came with that movement. For example: Ref. 2441, 2469 ...
The successor (cal. 25-21; simple movement without complication) looks like a rectangular movement, but in fact it is based on (the round) caliber 215.
Well, not everybody cares about
Cheers,
Oliver
This message has been edited by small-luxury-world on 2013-07-15 07:48:00
I am surprised no -one picked out the 1593- another 9-90 class mate
But this one is also special.
A special request for no sub seconds!!
Apparently made for an English gent who wanted it as a dress watch,
A fun afternoon that stretched for hours!!
Well done Andrew for organising
Julian
A special request for no sub seconds!!
Apparently made for an English gent who wanted it as a dress watch,
A fun afternoon that stretched for hours!!
Well done Andrew for organising
Julian
A free advice...
The Forum Search function of Watchprosite is outstanding. If you put there i.e. the reference number of a watch or the movement type, you will find a huge amount of information.
Best, Kari
Thank You Dr.
for telling me something I already knew, my question was more towards what makes this Patek so special in comparison to other watches out there, a search would not reveal that answer.
Have a Good Week
S
My view as to why this is a very special piece
There are many reasons a watch can be special.
Finally, the special nature for why it was released and the paucity of pieces, only 100, add a symbolism and a rarity that make it special.
Some are technical achievements. Such as a manual wind with say 14 day power reserve. Very impressive reserve. Or a very thin automatic with micro rotor. Very impressive thin-ness. Those are "measurable" quantified achievements. So many hours, so many millimeters.
Then there are more emotional reasons. Less quantified but no less significant. Is this Patek "the most thin" or "the finest finished" or "the best power reserve" or the like? No.
Is it special? Very much so.
Using vintage 9-90 movements bridges the past to the present. This was made during what is arguably the finest era of watchmaking ever. And the 9-90 was one of the most beautiful in house movements made during that period. To me it is like having a Babe Ruth signed baseball from that era - to be able to hold history and greatness of the past in your hand in the present.
For Patek, rectangular platinum pieces with see through back? That combination is very rare itself as well. It is like a Lange or Patek in stainless steel in a way. Are stainless steel pieces special alone? No, but for these 2 brands, steel pieces carry a particular special nature that cannot be denied. And I think that is why the brother to this piece, the limited edition 5565, was released in steel. And in the same, a rectangular platinum Patek with see through back, well that is just a very special combo for this brand.
Finally, the special nature for why it was released and the paucity of pieces, only 100, add a symbolism and a rarity that make it special.
I hope I have given you sufficient evidence to explain why this is special (again, in my humble opinion). If you ever procure one and are not satisfied with it being special enough, however, please contact me immediately to remedy this and I will gladly work a deal to take it off your hands!=) Take care.
:-) Wonderful :-)
Great Post, I really enjoyed it and was very informative, Tip of the Hat and a Big Thank You
S
First time ever by Patek?
Is this the first time Patek used screws to secure the case back in its mechanical/man's watch (apart from the 24)?
screws
Some early versions of the 5119 had casebacks secured with screws, while later models had snap backs. Not sure when or why they made the change.
5010
My 5010 has a screwed on case back. I believe there are other rectangular Pateks that do also, but not positive. The 5014?
It looks soooo unassuming :-) ...
... that one can easily overlook it.
Thanks for the link.
Best
Moritz