Zenith

My current watch collection currently includes one AP Royal Oak Offshore,  one Rolex Yachtmaster Full Gold, one Hublot Big Band, one Panerai 322, and a couple of Tag Huer. This message has been edited by Jean-Francois on 2016-04-22 07:03:44

With your budget, I would be more interested in a Lange Zeitwerk for example. But, of course, it always depends on your taste and goals ;-)

I really like the Zeitwerk too but when I go for it, it will be the minute repeater version and this one is around $96,000. It will have to wait a bit ...

I have the "simplest" model in rose gold and I really love it. And it is equivalent in price to your goal. For me, this Zenith is not relevant and nice for that price... but it is just my opinion ;-)

I am curious about your comment that the Zenith is not relevant and nice for that price, would you care to expand? Thanks.

Well, in my opinion (of course it is just mine), the design is just awful. The size of the crown, the shape of the hands, the harmony of the dial... I do not know the size of the case but if it is more than 42mm forget it because this trend (huge case) is just dead!

I think this design will not be "eternal" if you compare with a Lange 1 for example. This last one is still contemporary after 20 years of production.

May be I am peremptory but I think when you buy a watch for more than 50,000 USD, your choice must be well-reasoned and in that case, this Zenith is a bad choice.

As I already told you it is just my opinion but I prefer to be honest. A Patek or Lange will keep a certain value in the future, this Zenith not.

Kind regards

If you really like Zenith, have a look to the Zenith Academy Georges Favre-Jacot (a limited edition with a fusee chaine). More gorgeous I think ;-)

I personally think it is a great watch and good value for money (for a tourbillon), but I am a fan of their pilot range.   

it's got to be the two alternatives. But if you want to wear it, own it, enjoy it - why not go for something a little off piste?!

All very good recommendations and how I wish they were a bit bigger. I am 6'4" and I am finding that anything below 43 mm looks small on my wrist. The matter gets worse with my 6'10" son with whom I share my watches... For Arnold and Son, I have to admit that I am a bit disappointed by the quality of the finish when compared to Lange for example.

Well you have found a great option.
For large tourbillons at this price point also take a look the IWC Portuguese range, the Bell & Ross Tourbillon, the Ulysse Nardin Skeleton Tourbillon and the Freak of course. UN arguably offer the greater finishing over Zenith but I have not inspected the model you are looking at.
The problem is that when you are looking for a large tourbillon and a movement with Lange-levels of finishing, you will be venturing closer to the $100k mark - something like a Roger Dubois Excaliber flying tourbillon. If you walk away from the tourbillon requirement you can really get some interesting products that are large and with great finishing - HYT H1, URWERK 110, Armin Strom, Ressence, etc etc!
I also agree with the comment about the Zeitwerk, but if you are holding off for the repeater version - all the better!

I should also have mentioned that the IWC Portugese Perpetual Calendar is also a strong contender. The finish of the Zenith is excellent but I am concerned that it may be a bit too much money to sink on this brand. Roger Dubuis is also in my future, I had the chance to try on a few of their Tourbillons lately...what to say about the Excalibur quadruple Tourbillon...

And I believe it's too much value for money. It's a sexy watch on top of this

What size is it.

Tony

Really impressive on the Wrist.

1/ As Zenith loves open dials and this bloody damn aperture at 11 o clock, this tourbillon reminds that.
2/ A Tourbillon in a pilot / military watch??? Sorry but I don't see the coherence.
NOW... There is a big NOW... If it is what you like, then don't listen to me, go, enjoy, what you think is the most important.
Best,
Nicolas

Nautilus will be the winner among these options. Second choice Lange 1 but the time zone is also not keeping the price that well I think. Wouldn't recommend roger dubuis if price preservation is an issue BUT remember in all watches you need to buy what you love and will enjoy not what will hold the price. Even with modern Patek Nautilus you will lose something. I just think a Zenith tourbillon would only work IF you are in love with the design and don't care about future pricing. 

I have seen the lower models in this form (annual calendar with chrono) and it looks great.  In pictures it might seem a little off balance in the dial but in the flesh it works really well for such a big case, and the centralizing of the chrono sub dials in the large dial really isn't an issue

Lovely pieces

Regards

Tim