VC Patrimony vs PP Calatrava 5127
I have been doing some research and have settled on the these two pieces. They both come from premiere manufactures, similar movements and Geneva Seals and both are roughly at the same price point. With exception of slight difference in size, the PP is 37 vs 40mm for VC, the two are terrific. I would appreciate some insight and biases. Thanks in advance for your opinions
Alex
You can't go wrong....
When it comes to dress watches, which both the Patrimony Contemporaine Automatic and the Calatrava 5127 are, I have a huge bias towards watches between 34-38 mm. Even though I like the way the Patrimony sits on the wrist, I would actually buy the smaller watch. Here are pictures from the prevous posts:
Now I am a bit of a retro cro-mag man when it comes to having a preference for modestly sized watches. Other factors, such as the appearance of each watch, are very personal. I find all three watches above to be attractive, and I would be happy with any of them on my wrist. The movements under consideration are both excellent. In this competition I wouldn't let the movement be my deciding factor in which watch to choose.
Bill
Question of the Seal?
does the Traditonelle have the Geneva Seal?
I am not able to find this information
thanks
It does....
Bill
Geneva Seal and VacheronConstantin,...
Tought decision
I'd go on the VC Traditionnelle, in 38mm...I saw it in White metal, and I was stunned by the quality and the finish of this VC...
But the Patek is also a very good choice, even if instead of this one, I'd rather go on a 5196P...
Biased, me?
Noooo! LOLBest.
Nicolas
I'd go with Bill's advice...
In rose gold the Traditionnelle is just a great watch, and a fantastic size. I like the small seconds at 9 o'clock, its a bit different and I appreciate that. I do with there was a version without the date, but I could certainly enjoy it even with a date window.
Try each watch on and see which one reall makes you smile and go with that one!
Best regards,
Dino
My two cents..
If your wrist can take the 40mm of the Patrimony Contemporaine, I would recommend it. If you are looking for an automatic, I would recommend the Contemporaine Automatic without date (cleaner look), but the one with data also presents the date window well (at 6 o'clock). Both these watches (and the Traditionelle) show off their exquisite movements through their see-through casebacks (a real plus!).
If you are looking for simpler dress watches, I would recommend the hand-wound VC Contemporaine, but the PP 5196 is also a safe choice.
By the way, the Patrimony manual & Patrimony auto with date are also available with a black dial, but only from the VC boutiques and (I hear) only up to April or May of this year. So if you live near a VC boutique, it might be worth checking out.
One thing I like about the Patrimony Contemporaine (even the Traditionelle) are the small things, like the design of the indices, etc. which lend a touch of "cool" within the simple design. The Calatrava, while being "elegant and timeless", is just a little too bland for my personal taste.
In the end, you cannot go wrong with any of these watches, as long as you choose the one that brings the biggest smile on your face!
Good luck!
You must see the VC Traditionelle
I strongly suggest that you see the VC Traditionelle that Bill has suggested above. I saw it at the AD and to my untrained eye it was of stunning quality both front and back. The design is also a little different from the other watches you have mentioned though it incorporates both the date and seconds hand.
Best Regards
The 40mm VC Patrimony X81J6986
without the date, is a 100 x better looking than this version.
Maybe just a detail,
Geo
Sorry, no contest..........
I've had my 5127R for about 19 months, the honeymoon continues.
D in W
