Comments:
Journe reference numbers or equivalent?
Good afternoon!
I've been compiling some data and I've been having a hard time finding FP Journe reference numbers. For example, Is there any nomenclature to differentiate a Resonance with a brass movement from one with a gold movement, or the newer asymmetrical model from the original dial? This is purely academic, but I feel like there should be a way to identify these by number somehow.
Specifically, I'm interested in being able to identify:
- 38mm Resonance PT w/ RG dial; Gold Movement; original symmetrical dial
- 38mm Tourbillon Souveraign PT w/RG dial; Gold movement with Seconds Morte
- 40mm versions of the same watches
Thank you for your time!
Cheers,
Brandon
Thanks Don!
I'll hold out hope for a while longer, but I'm not sure they are referenced the standard way. I searched pretty extensively prior to posting the question, so there may not be an answer!
Thanks again!
Brandon
Resonance References
Journe references are to the calibre and whether the movement was the earlier brass or the rose gold. You asked about the Resonance:
Early Resonance is 1499 (this is the calibre) R (for Resonance). These were all in 38mm cases. 1499.2 the rose gold movement, RN (to denote Resonance Nouvelle). Latter is true for both 38 and 40mm cases. Transition from brass to rose gold was in 2004.
The Tourbillon Souverain (often called 'the remontoir') was only in brass, calibre 1498T. The 'dead seconds' or second Tourbillon Souverain were all with rose gold movements, calibre 1403TN.
Serial numbers become somewhat more complex and nuanced, and there are a few changes. The above, though, gets to your query, and the case size is not designated via either calibre or serial reference.
Hope this is helpful. I can send you by pm a book reference.
Best,
Douglas
Thank you!
Thank you for the very helpful info! I should be able to deduce the reference numbers I need from this info.
Thank you again!
Cheers,
Brandon