The Portuguese is a great watch from IWC. I like the variations in dials, complications, and the watches who are inspired by the IWC model. My Baume and Mercier Classima is for example a kind of budget Portuguese.
Movements, Valjoux, Eta, Selita, In-house, and many others are interesting things in the watch world. I start with my first watch with a basic swatch group movement. When the power reserve was empty, it took a while to wind by the rotor. My second watch with a Longines L699.2 movement that have it roots by Valjoux i think, correct if i wrong, took long winding by rotor sweeps. My in-house co-axial Omega 8800, it amaze me by no power reserve, sweep the rotor a few times, and the balance wheel starts immediately. So there is no need for me to unscrew the crown and wind by hand. My conclusion, a movement is very important. Which movement, inhouse, country of origin, the watch maison. Omega did develop a great movement, and i can not believe it. Is this possible with mechanical watches? Touch it, and it runs like an oiled supercar.
I have no experience with IWC, but which watches have a great movement? And which IWC is very accurate?
My experience is their in house with 8 day PR is not accurate at all. Their fly back like in the IWC Chrono is pretty well done and robust and their new cheAper in house are complete garbage. I owned both the brand new Chrono 41mm and the new spitfire on nato. Both had horrible time keeping and the Chrono didn’t reset properly for me. So never again unless going up market with them. The modified movement in this Portuguese is classic and done well. A real work horse
By: India Whiskey Charlie : January 22nd, 2020-14:25
And, at some point I had more than 20 of them. All modified ETA, modified Valjoux or in-house (8-day or otherwise) ran +8 to +15 seconds per day and none of them could be regulated by IWC in the US or in Switzerland. This, however, did not bother me that much because many of my other brands behaved similarly. That said, my most recent acquisitions that are almost quartz-like accurate as two Rolex's and four Panerai's with the P3000 movement. Now, I believe if you want super accurate watches, just stick with quartz. Otherwise, suck it up and wear the beautiful mechanical watches for the reasons we all love them.
My Longines have much similarities with that valjoux, but it is only a time complication without a date function. Model: Lindbergh second setting, Wheems series. To big for some watch lovers. 46,5mm case diameter.
Other. I thought IWC was accurate. I keep in touch, which IWC models have a good name.
I heard the complain on fora that IWC use also movements from others like Eta and Selita, and put a premium price tag on them.
By: India Whiskey Charlie : January 22nd, 2020-15:09
I've had about five IWC's with that ébauche and all have been approximately +10 seconds per day. But, it is interesting to note that I had this antique recently serviced by my local watchmaker and it keeps much better time than all the other more modern ones.
Interesting how everyone's experience can be so different...
By: India Whiskey Charlie : January 22nd, 2020-17:12
I too owned the GST perpetual titanium just like yours and it was the worst timekeeper of them all. It was serviced three times and IWC could never get it right. That's aside from the perpetual calendar issues I had...🙄
I have three IWC and all three keep time just fine. The 8 day portofino I’ve heard on the board here and there that it’s horrible at keeping time but I’ve had zero issues in that regard. That goes as well for my Aquatimer and also my Port 150 year. Of course, I love the IWC look so I’d probably wear them anyways.
Despite its popularity and over two decades of production, it seems that little attention or appreciation is given to the modifications needed for the 3714’s movement. The repositioning of the subseconds from 9 to the 6 o’clock position is not earth shattering, but is not exactly trivial either. Its requiring a change to the baseplate and modification of the gear train is certainly more than a polish and selective component upgrade that was often done to 7750’s of the 1990s era (of course including IWC for its pilots and other watches). The same could be said of the 3712’s movement (which had the same plus many more changes). The 3714 is solid watch with versatile good looks and a non-stock movement. For me, it definitely has very good enthusiast’s credibility.