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Horological Meandering

 

Much like dating.....my first watches were not keepers and I got smarter as I progressed.

 
 By: Blansky : February 12th, 2021-07:56
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Well said

 
 By: Cookies : February 12th, 2021-08:02
Me too. Same thing.
Strange thing...I will always remember I let a very good one go. My first love..she was loyal but boring, but wife material. It is like letting a Reverso 8 days go, which I did regrettably.

Not me....

 
 By: myles721 : February 12th, 2021-07:56
1. Capability...substance over style...don’t care (as much) what others think.
2. Style not just looks or status but brand ethos!!
3. Value...I don’t mean cheap...I mean paying a lot of $$$ for a brand that rests on its laurels.

There are a few brands (specifics are unimportant) that do more than satisfy these criteria and a few brands that in my judgement fall repeatedly and remarkably short.

+1

 
 By: Cookies : February 12th, 2021-08:06
Capability and substance are the key drivers.



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This is very interesting post to discuss and share,

 
 By: Juliusotto : February 12th, 2021-07:59
Congrats for this great idea 

Come tell more Iulian

 
 By: Cookies : February 12th, 2021-08:03
Tell us your stories of your first flirts with horology.

Well,was very long time ago,

 
 By: Juliusotto : February 12th, 2021-08:15
right after my country escape the communism ,small shop down town Bucharest ,was a Breitling Navitimer blue dial,was love at first site,all those numbers on that superb dial,and all the calculations that where possible to make with that ingenious bezel! Was the first real good watch that I could see in person! Took me one year to raise the funds!

Great story

 
 By: Cookies : February 12th, 2021-08:24
Must be a harrowing experience and a tumultuous period! My friend too had similar war experience. She cries at times from the post traumatic shock.

I feel Breitling is a sleeping giant. When it reawakens and sparkles our fantasies with Navitimers and the slide rules, they will capture the watch world once again. 

Your story makes me want to get a Navitimer too and dress in a vintage military vibe. Cool innit?

Thank you,

 
 By: Juliusotto : February 12th, 2021-09:04
I don’t know if it is great story but is my story,I wear the navitimer many years with great pleasure,but soon after this watch I start to discover the world of diving watches ,and that took me to an Omega Seamster Chrono ,this one was not my love of my life but I remember enjoying the water capability of it !Was a time when all the info about everything in general were very difficult to find and much more in an excomunist country(this days my kids can’t imagine a world without internet and google)

Again a great post of you Cookies

 
 By: LiftAngle51 : February 12th, 2021-13:52
Meandering through your watch life is a journey i had through the world.

I started with Chinese fun park watches and Casio’s.
The Swatches came up, but as a child they where yuppy watches for kids from rich parents.

The first luxury brand watch i saw as a child was Breitling.

When i grew up and became an adult i lost the string of the watch world. At that that time the internet came up, got my first pc with an internet connection, it was a matter of some months i go to surf on websites to look watches.
Discovering that Longines is a great brand, because i like the dials. Quickly i saw Rolex, Audemars Piguet and Panerai.
Discovered chrono24 on the www, their website, i look at Air Kings, Oyster quarts (2000 - 2001).

In 2010 i bought my first Seiko.

In 2018 my first Longines.

So a Rolex and an Audemars Piguet still not in my possession.

Seen some other interesting brands, here and on the www,
Rolex and Audemars Piguet i put into the waiting row.

First i want another Baume and Mercier and after i want a Breguet Marine big date, GP ww tc, Breitling Navitimer, Omega Planet Ocean, Chronoswiss, Grönefeld, Christian van der Klaauw, AP RO diver, Hulk, YM, UN chronometer diver, UN executive dual time, UN freak, etc etc.

Almost forgotten, i want a H.Moser and Cie Streamliner with the green gradient dial.

Interesting story Weems

 
 By: Cookies : February 12th, 2021-14:38
It will come to u soon. U gotta be patient with Rolex and AP and beware of scams involving faked pieces, esp those with closed caseback designs.
I remembered my first encounter with the fabled Patek Philippe. It was a random day at the AD and the nautilus was sitting on the shelf. Back then the nautilus was common, and one could get it for 22k or less USD brand new. They didn’t wrap pieces up then.
I asked to see the piece.
When I held it, the buttery smooth steel polishing hit me first. It almost had no sharp edges. It seemed so steampunk, yet so thin. The caseback was beautiful too, with the gold rotor, and the geneva stripes. It was like a gentleman was wearing something sporty.
Ahh, those were the days when the Swiss weren’t that much concerned about supply.

Now; fast forward a little. 

Grand Seiko:

A friend bought a Quartz GS at a thrift store. No one knew what a GS was back then. He paid $300 for it.

The steel case and bracelet were so well crafted, it had no sharp edges (IWC, Rolex, Omega often have these sharper edges which are more industrial). The first impression of GS was thus, “the Japanese are taking this to Patek case finishing levels.” The design reminded me a a Rolex datejust, much like how Japanese pen-makers often mimick the Montblanc classic pen proportions.


Agree

 
 By: LiftAngle51 : February 12th, 2021-15:37
Time changes the market.

I follow prices throughout time to time.
Around 2001 the Rolex Air King 34mm was in American Dollars 4000. new.
A Milgauss GV was in 2002 5700 Euro - new.
A Day Date white dial steel model 10.000 Euro - new.

The ladies date just was a cheap E2700 - used.

AP RO used E8000. New E 10.000.

Panerai Radiomir/Luminor new E4500.

Patek Philippe was in that days around 2002 something exotic for me. For the rich and wealthy, i was sure that brand means something huge in high horology. The same F.P Journe is now in 2019 - 2021.

My horological St Valentine were various. Rolex, in the early 80's with Thomas Magnum 1675. I knew I would have one, one day.

 
 By: amanico : February 12th, 2021-14:50
The Jaeger Lecoultre Memovox and Master Geographique, in the 90's. I understood that JLC is mandatory, when you love watches. 

Panerai, with their pre vendome watches, in the late 90's. 

Patek with the World Time ( 5110 ). My dream watch. 

And Ulysse Nardin, in the early 2000's. Madness at its best. 

Those built my love and culture for watches. 

Best,

Nicolas




Great story Nico

 
 By: Cookies : February 12th, 2021-15:05
I actually did not know what a Thomas Magnum was, and searched it. Is it the Rolex GMT master on the movie character’s wrist? It is gorgeous.

Yes JLC is mandatory for every collector - no one has found a way to escape the inevitable. Maybe one can escape the wrath of the Holy Trinity, but never the maison waiting with an apple in the Garden of Eden. One touch of JLC brings unspoken knowledge and experience to a higher realm.

Ulysse Nardin was a hot house in the era when you wrote more about it. I recall your posts about Strangers in the Night most. I felt it was the most romantic watch a Romeo could ever wear. And then there was the Trilogy series and more. 



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Yes, Thomas Magnum was the main culprit for my horological madness. Funny how a TV series can have an impact on you. Another example, The Prisoner: I was totally mad of the Lotus 7, because of this series...

 
 By: amanico : February 12th, 2021-15:08
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I will watch Thomas Magnum

 
 By: Cookies : February 12th, 2021-15:16
Just read his character synopsis. This is one interesting and deep character.

This part reminds me of myself:

 Magnum lived in the guest house on Robin Masters' estate, Robin's Nest, as part of his being in-charge of security on the estate, which likely explains the almost unlimited access to the Ferrari.”


Yes. Here is one picture which made me fall for that watch....

 
 By: amanico : February 12th, 2021-15:25
Thomas, at his daddy funerals, wearing his daddy's watch...



Sad scene but..

 
 By: Cookies : February 12th, 2021-15:27
It speaks a lot, like a young man forced into a grown man’s world by life’s tragedies. 

I must watch this today.

Yes, you'll see, this is all an era.

 
 By: amanico : February 12th, 2021-23:33
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If I may share my path

 
 By: Gelato Monster : February 13th, 2021-06:09
Rolex was the first childhood dream. A celebration of achiements. Cellini WG in grey croc. I have always love white/cold metal over warm metal ever since.



IWC Porsche Design was an exciting and active dream. Titanium and black dial for a sense of simplicity, exotic, aristocratic yet misterious. Moon phase and Date was chosen as it reminds of passion and perseverance. A true battle proven piece, perfect for everything illegal by pre-teen 😉🤐 This piece started my preference of exotic metal over gold.



IWC Da Vinci Chronograph as romantic yet lively dream of teen. This is my only gold piece ever. Lets see if I ever fall for warm metal again ever.



Piaget was chosen for a final Achiement of education and starting point of corporate life. White Dial and Manual Movement as a reminder of integrity, commitment, perfection



Wonderful story!

 
 By: Cookies : February 13th, 2021-06:28
Those are gorgeous pieces.

What made you transition to warmer hues of gold?

When I saw the P. Design piece, I was thinking “they don’t make such beautiful things of late.” That design echos a bottom-to-top design process instead of the top-to-bottom process often used to reduce costs. Juxtaposing that to the new Tag Heuer x Porsche collaboration, it becomes very noticeable.

I am not sure

 
 By: Gelato Monster : February 13th, 2021-06:38
It was a mixed feeling of 1st love and love of speed. 😂
Somehow i am always attracted to IWC, over Daytona and AP.