Horological Meandering

What is happening with me?

Nicolas will be happy to know that I am starting to fall for a ROO. This one is the full Ti version.

But I need your analytical critics. If I recall, The ROO has been put on the market around 1993, 15 yrs ago. IMO this current timepiece seems to be of an early generation. Could you throw a guess on its approximate age?.

Is it me or it looks like the superluminova appears to be faded? In such case how much could it affect its efficiency?

The timepiece is said to be 45mm. Is it making any sense since todays models are listed at 44mm (the last thing I would like to purchase is a 41mm)?

Any changes to the chrono movement since this version? Was it 100m at that time as well?

Would it sound reasonable to pay about 60% of today's new one (ref #25721TI.OO.1000TI.06)?

Thank you and kind regards,

Yves

This message has been edited by Yves007 on 2008-08-08 22:32:03

was released in 1992, or 1993.

Hey, I'm not responsible for that sudden love, my friend...LOL

I'm more in love with the RO, as I find the ROO a bit too large.

Let me elaborate, and this is just my personnal take, nothing more:

When GG created the woman and the RO, he made it in a certain size: 39mm, but correct me if I'm wrong.

So the original concept of this watch was sized.

I mean, that the whole balance of the watch is deterimend also by the size...

If you go in a bigger size with the same watch, I'm afraid that you loose the balance of the original concpet.

Personnaly, when I compare , side by side, a simple RO like a Jumbo, or a Kasparov, I find both of them very classy, and even with this characteristic design...Timeless.

Now, you have very nice ROO, of course.

Do you want me to get wrong?

Let's speak about the RO concept!

LOL

I'm crazy about it, well, the 1st one, less the new Black one.

The Barrichello and the Montoyas are also fine.

And my favourite, the Orchard Road..For this one, I'll be ready to publicaly say that I was wrong with the ROO, LOL

All that to anser you: Go on it if you love it, really love it.

Now:

1/ The luminova can't be faded, only tritium can.

2/ The size is a matter of wrist, if you have the wrist to go on a 45mm watch, why not?!!!

3/ I think, but I'm not sure of that, AP is or has recently developped an in house version of its ROO chrono.

4/ As for the value, I'd answer that it has the price you want to pay...

Best, my friend.

Nicolas

personally i dont see the huge attraction others see. firstly the watch has a dial set up to look like it carries a V7750 calibre underneath which means that there are millions of watches out there that look the same, secondly there are far too many 'sports personality' ltd editions that (hopefully) will be worthless a few years after that personality retires and disappears from the limelight, thirdly the price, but that a personal matter so i wont go into it, and finally 60% of a huge amount is far too much for a used one IMHO especially as its an older watch. 40% of new for a new model is more like it, but they do hold their price very well so perhaps 40% of new for an old model is fair.

those are just my opinions, but if you like them and are buying without holding it which i do a lot of you just need to be 100% sure that they are giving correct sizes and details so that you wont be disappointed when it arrives.

i mean no disrespect at all to collectors and lovers of AP watches, but i have possibly the only AP i'll ever buy, the Star Wheel.

i just thought i'd put a -ve edge on the conversation to get the mind thinking.

Graham

LOL

Agree on the fact there are way too many LE in the RO or ROO family, my friend.
But there are also many adorable, fantastci ones, like the RO Chrono city of Sails from 2003, the " Be Happy " in titanium from 2000, and what to say about the ROO Orchard Road, wqith this grey dial, rubber bezel and tantalum case...

It's really a matter of taste, and size, too, as sadly, while I can wear some 44, 45, or 47mm, I have a lot of problems to wear my 40mm RO COS...

Best.

Nicolas

Luminova can lose it's "brightness" and ability to hold "charge;" superluminova less so.

AP has started shipping, in very limited Offshore models, a new version of the Offshore chronograph movement. This should not be confused with their much rumoured all new integrated in house chronograph, which is at this point still just a rumour.  This new movement, cal. 3126/3840, will likely ultimately replace the original cal. 2126-2226-2326/2840 in the ROOS chronograph line, but not for a few years at least.

Hi, Yves,

But I need your analytical critics. If I recall, The ROO has been put on the market around 1993, 15 yrs ago. IMO this current timepiece seems to be of an early generation. Could you throw a guess on its approximate age?.

It is an "early generation" whatever that means. 

Is it me or it looks like the superluminova appears to be faded? In such case how much could it affect its efficiency?

Hard to tell from photos; luminova can fade and lose its ultimate brightness and how long the "charge" lasts. It can be freshened up at the next service with current superluminova.

The timepiece is said to be 45mm. Is it making any sense since todays models are listed at 44mm (the last thing I would like to purchase is a 41mm)?

Forget what anyone claims about Offshore case sizes; this is (and will continue to be) one of the most common misinformation on any watch or series.

The correct "classic" Offshore Chronograph case size is

42mm - Diameter without crown guard (main case band only)

44.5mm - Diameter inc. highest point of crown guard (those pointy things on either side of the crown)

47.5mm - Diameter inc. highest point of crown (that round thing you turn to set the time)

Any changes to the chrono movement since this version? Was it 100m at that time as well?

Besides the movement change Nicolas mentioned, which I clarified above,  the movement inside yours is probably a 2126 or 2226 base, hardly likely a 2326.

To me changes between 2126 and 2226 are minor and wouldn't make any difference to me, but if you can get a 2326, if might be worth pursuing (ceramic bearings, etc) But again, not likely in the generation of model you are considering.

Hope this helped.

TM

Still blushing, my friend? LOL
Wow, you really surpsied me about the Luminova that fades with time...
I strongly believed that only Tritium faded...Not Luminova...
Another Urban Legend that died, tonight..LOL
Thanks for the correction, Thomas.
Nicolas

Hi,

Well i think that Offshore is an evergreen piece. If i had a chance i would go for it too. Not much changes had been done except since last year they change all its JLC 889 movement to their very in-house cal 3126 (if i am not mistaken). To me , this is one of the best looking and all time favourite piece. 44mm is not a problem if you have a min wrist of 6.5. And i actually love that dial more than today's theme which comes with bigger numerals. 60% off sounds very good if condition is as shown. Cheers. 

My very humble 2c.

 

 

 

Regards

Jacky

Yves,

I write with the bias of one who loves the Offshore and owns several variations of widely varying weight. 

60% of current MSRP is on the mark for current market prices if the condition is acceptable and box and papers are included.  I suggest you ask about service history, as it will need service if this hasn't been done and you should not touch it if it has been serviced or polished by anyone other than AP.  While there are watchmakers who can service them adequately, almost none outside AP can polish the watch without ruining it.

The titanum version is an abolute delight to wear and the one I most often choose.

Park

 

very nice model

AP ROO QEII Cup