Horological Meandering

As I would like to get unbiased opinions & views from the members.

Long story short for background info, approx 7 weeks ago I bought a new Pam 312 everything was going fine, I had even been bitten by the strap bug and had bought about 6 of them Wind on until this week, when too my utter dismay after wearing it solidly for the previous 48 hrs it just stopped, one second it was working and then about 3/4 hrs later it had stopped.

Now I am not here to ask for your views regarding this matter, but upon my choice, which doesn't include a 312.

But instead centres around two further Pams and an IWC.

My choices are the newer 321, the manual 233 or an IWC Big Pilot.

I like the piece to be sturdy and robust with a date and a PR, but do not have to many concerns whether it's an automatic or manual piece.

The watch would be worn as a daily beater, in what could be quite a volatile environment.

I would be very grateful for your views & opinions on my choices.

Thank you and regards

Tony

 

Why did you limit yourself to Panerai & IWC?
Is there a particular reason?

Are you open to othe suggestions?



Cheers

Personally i'm not a Panerai fan. i hope you took it back and are now looking to replace it with one of the others.

best of luck

Graham

the PAM 233. This having been said I wonder same as PinkPanter whethre you ar eopen to other suggestions.

There is a world of opportunity out there.

Best regards.

George

. . . "volatile environment".

Befuddled, Art

Means that at times I may deal with a person (s), who may not wish to have their liberty taken away from them.

I am only limited by my finances and the brands that the dealer stocks that supplied the 312!  What did you have in mind?

The reason why I have suggested just  these three pieces is that I like their appearance & have some limited knowledge of them.

Regards

Tony 

. . . which truly speaks volumes .

Considering your line of work, my inclination would be for a less expensive beater like a Seiko Brightz . . .

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. . . which fills your technical requirements, and save the remainder for a 'special occasions' piece.

This from a person that has but one tool watch, and needlessly babies it ;-) . . .

Topcat30093,

 

Usually, the watch of choice for law enforcement or bounty hunter or bailiff is something from the Casio G-Shock range or similar.

Tough, solar powered, water resistant, some with atomic clock radio control, compass and most important cool light to read time at night.

 

Regards,

MTF

what is the nature of your job?

Cheers

...have you considered some of the more popular military favorites, dare I mention quartz like Traser or Luminox? Even a G Shock? (GW3000)
Besides that, most of my WIS law enforcement friends are wearing either Omega or Rolex on occasion. For SWAT practice, the beater quartzs come out.

I would strongly suggest you consider something from Sinn, specially the Tegimented models.

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Tony,

I do not own a Panerai but have respect for the brand.  My observation is that people that get a Panerai generally actually want a Panerai (this is somewhat less obvioius than it sounds!); meaning that it is a brand/design draw rather than a model draw.  Consequently if I were in your shoes I would probably ask the to Panerai or not to Panerai question first.  Given it was your first choice and two of the three new kids on the block are Panerai, perhaps that is what you want?  In terms of ruggedness I would have thought that it fits the bill quite nicely (for a mechanical watch).

Good luck in your choice.

You are of course correct when you say go for something which is more suitable.

To that end I do have my faithful and longest owned watch, which is a Casio G Shock.

But I just thought that for a change I would get something different, hence my first choice.

I honestly didn't consider getting a BP as I thought that the 47mm would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa to big.

But have been very pleasantly surprised on how comfortable it sits upon the wrist and that it doesn't look ridiculously big   

Though that said a do also love the 1950's case, domed crystal and the layout of the 233. And of course you have the additional advantage of being able to replace the strap, thus changing the whole appearance and to some degree feel of the watch

Regards

Tony

I would go for the 233. handwound, gmt, zero reset second, 8 day power reserve, 1950 case, domed crystal... i used to own one... actually miss it.

You talk complete sense and an argument which I cannot dispute.

My uptake on it, rightly or wrongly is that I like to wear beautifully made watches which run via a mechanical movement.

Of course I could wear a boring watch such as quartz, but if I did that, it would not leave me with a lot of time to wear other pieces and they would just sit in the safe gathering dust which would be a huge shame!!

So I decide to wear these gorgeous pieces, in the past that has included Pateks, Lange & Sohne and FP Journe. 

But now I would just prefer to wear a quality S/S watch, such as the ones that I have mentioned

Hey isn't that why I pay insurance??

Graham, you are perfectly correct we still call the Socrates and I dealt with a few today! LOL

Regards

Tony

 

..G-Shocks. At least if its broken, you can easily replace it without feeling the pain.  Unless you want to be like detective Tom Ludlow wearing his GM Master II the movie Street Kings... The watch suggested here such as the Pams, IWCs, etc, are more for off duty imo.

B&R Type Demineur although quartz, used by the French Security Forces, Amanico to validate this point OR

another option Sinn EZM series or Sinn 142 with the controversial Lemania 5100 for German military GSG 9 (elite counter-terrorism unit also for special operations after what happened in Munich), or even the Sinn U series with the submarine steel should be able to withstand hard knocks and dont cause your limbs..

. . . this might be an instance where the purported advantage offered by the Pellaton winding system might actually be put to good use . . . 

 

. . . you might also be a good candidate for . . .

. . . a G O Sport Evo Impact. Miscreants, take heed . . . Tony won't be overly worried about slamming you against a wall with an Impact on his wrist!

both use a Seiko diver - it stands up to concrete block walls (with Granny over the shoulder) in a thick smoke, and the door of a Crown Victoria ....

I think they work well in a law enforcement environment.

Maybe one of those PVD'ed Seiko Divers?

Cheers,
Anthony