Horological Meandering

Hey everyone,

This forum has been a great resource in terms of information, opinion and research thanks to to great community. I've made many purchasing decisions on the great advice here, but I'm looking for opinions between 2 esoteric choices -- which one should I buy:

1. JLC Duometre Quantieme a Lunaire in Pink Gold
2. Moser Perpetual 1 in Palladium

Here's a little background on myself and my collection. I own several vintage high-end Rolexes, some LE Panerais, an AP ROO, a Montblanc Rieussec, & a Patek Aquanaut. I'm in my 30s and have been running a finance business that is doing well. As a result, I'm looking to expand my collection with something higher end, uses a precious metal, can be worn at formal situations and has an interesting complication (foudrouyante or perpetual calendar). I've narrowed it down to these two, which I'll very likely get, but I've been vacillating between them. What would you guys choose and why?

Thanks for your suggestions in advance!

In terms of complicatons, I'd say the Moser, of course, as a perpetual calendar is, to me, more  appealing than a  " simple " moonphase.

And the Moser is an interesting perpetual calendar!

BUT, there are several reasons which lead me to go for the JLC, instead:

1/ The simplicity of the dial, on the Moser is a pro and a con at the same time. I love its simplicity, very " under the radar ", but I also regret not having, under the eyes, all the calendar datas.

2/ The purpose of the Quantieme Lunaire is not the moonphase, which is more a pretext, than accuracy.

The concept behind this watch is realy  interesting, the two barrels, feeding, independantly, the balance wheel ,and all the time functions, the 2 hacking seconds ( the foudroyante  and the " traditional " one ) at the service of accuracy.

3/ The Duometre aesthetics: A superb case, a nicely decorated and finished movement, a great grained dial.

4/ To me, the Duometre is certainly the best offer from JLC in the world of Belle Horlogerie.

You have another option if you prefer a plain dial, which is the Duometre à Q.L in white gold: a stunning beast which adds strenght to its natural elegance.

BUT, BUT, BUT... You will  be the one who will wear it, so, as usual, nobody can decide for you, it is just up to you!

Best,

Nicolas.

 

 

I cannot countenance the foudroyante sharing time with a moonphase complication, which to me together suggests a celestial serenity (rendered beautifully by IWC with the Portofino Moonphase, whose Roman numeral indices and Breuget hands--along with the moonphase complication itself--suggest to me at least a medieval sense of wonder and serenity) offset by the frenzied and frenetic function of the foudroyante.  An unresolved tension......'

I'd opt for the Moser in this situation--a well conceived perpetual calendar that encases an interchangeable dual escapement wheel component--designed for ease of maintenance.

Good luck with your choice!  Please let us know what you decide, and post a wrist shot of your purchase

Warm regards,
J
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The Moser perpetual is my favorite iteration of the perpetual calendar, and palladium my favorite metal so I'd be sorely tempted to pick up that watch between the two.  The JLC in question is, however, a more interesting watch (even if I prefer the original Duometre over the QL).  It looks like Nicolas has already responded with the variety of reasons why it is more intriguing on the wrist, so I won't reiterate. 

Ultimately, the Moser is a more sober experience, whereas the QL is more expressive and dare I say it, more fun.

Enjoy the decision-making process.

Cheers,
Daos

for want of a better term. If its the former in both instances, than the Moser P1 is it.  JLC is also a much better known brand than Moser if you're ok with that.  Simple and un-complex as the P1 may seem, the movement however is far from simple as you do know.

All that said, as its always been said here, get the one you prefer most (or both ).  For me, you can't go wrong with both.  For me, it'll be the Moser P1.  Have fun in your quest.

I've seen this thread on other forums, yet none of the posts have pictures in them. Wish I knew what these watches looked like.

Both JLC and Moser have good websites, so you can view the watches there ...

Moser for me without hesitation. Love that simple execution of the complex perpetual calendar complication.

Andrew

here is a photo for the moser.

 

Wow, thanks for all the great opinions Keep them coming!

It seems that there're slightly more people liking the JLC due to the dial being more interesting. Amanico did bring up a good point saying that Moser's simplicity is a two-edged sword and I agree. But spending this much on a watch, I'm hoping to keep it for the rest of my life. Because the Moser is more classic looking, it seems to be a safer bet. However, for the JLC, I don't know if it's uniqueness well stay classic. One thing I like about the JLC is that despite being unique, it doesn't have that look that will be "out of fashion" in 10-20 years, like Hublots, RMs, etc IMHO. I feel that some of Daniel Roth's stuff is like that: they looked amazing years back, but seem a bit "dated". What do you guys think; am I wrong? The classic aspect appeals to me, but the JLC is a wildcard in that respect.

As another note, I'm planning to build up my collection in the future with more interesting pieces, like the DB15/DB28, UN Tellurium, Haldimann H1 & Voutilainen. But those are much further down the road. I'm not a guy who likes to constantly buy and sell, but instead want to build up a core collection of 5 high-end watches, with another 5 daily wear ones by narrowing my current collection.

Again thanks for the great info -- this is really helping me come to a better decision soon.

a small but meaningful (to you) collection is the right way to go.  Don't rush in to impulse buys.  Take your time to look, re-look and re-look a watch before you commit.  The initial WOW, marketing forces can often lead to impulse buys that you could regret very quickly and if buying new, more often than not, these impulse buys will ensure you lose a big percentage off your purchase price.

Go quality that make sense to you. You seem to be off to a good start with the Moser IMO.

I'd prefer a perpetual calendar... even though I do not own one
so the vote goes to the Moser...

But whatever decision that you make, both watches are winners!

Cheers,
GG