Audemars Piguet

There is no problem at all!

Best,

Nicolas

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from being on a winder. I would not even set the date if I wore it one day a week. What makes the most sense to me is to rotate out of watches 2 weeks or a month or whatever and not worry at all about them during off wrist time. I keep my perpetual calendars  on the winding boxes supplied by the manufacturer. If the maker doesn't include a winding box you do not need one. 

Definitely would have felt the same if the crown had dropped off. Even now, I'm a little miffed...

also when not on a winder. And the issues were there straight out of the factory seal.... So now, 3 months later, I just got the call that the watch is back. Wil keep you posted on its state of operating.

Will be watching your updates with interest! 

... to pulling my trigger on one.  I will be following fellow purists's response with great interests.

Cheers,

 

Ken

terrifying. There are some reports on another watch forum about the date wheel not moving properly on the 15202. Without enterring into discussions about the historical value, tradition etc of the 2121, would a current buyer be better off with a modern 3120 watch? In perspective, does the 3120 tend to have more, less or the same frequency of functional issues as the 2121? Again, emotions apart... if possible

lack of performance, especially after reading numerous other service issues on this watch (2121) which is not inexpensive. Emotionally blind collectors will defend their brand without logical clear thought, but my best guess is AP will resolve your issues and the general issues with the movement. Unfortunately these things take time.

Watches are a passion not a need. Imagine if you had one, reliable luxury daily car and it kept breaking down. You sent it away for a few months and it came back only to break down again. We would all be quite upset and not buy that brand again.

All that aside, aesthetically your watch is beautiful and hope you receive a timely and satisfactory resolution.

Best,

I didn't have any problem with my 15202 for 8 years until last Dec. it ran slower than it should. I found out it had a stop & go issue. The hair spring & balance wheel were turning while the hands were not moving. I never put it on a winder for the last 8 years thought. I just got it back from service ( that was the first service for my 2121 for the last 8 years - my bad)  let's see how it goes!!!! 

8 years!

My carbon diver sits on the same winder with no issues.

For such a nice watch, AP should know this and do a re-call service free of charge. And most importantly they should build a value for money calibra, otherwise, AP spoiled our love on this great designed watch.

I tend to agree with Nicolas though, and generally do not keep my pieces on a winder.  The 15202 I do, as the date corrector is rather old school and can take a while to adjust if you are off by more than a few days.

I keep my 15202 on the winder, since it takes some time to adjust the date.

I use a Beuben & Zorweg winder which keeps the watch vertical. My carbon diver sits on the same winder with the same settings with no issues. Maybe I just got unlucky...

& the unfortunate experience.

I always thought the 2121 calibre was a tried and tested reliable movement but obviously from the responses here it may not be.

I haven't noticed a problem with my 15202 but I shall monitor it more closely with extended wear to see if all is good. Don't use winders and often don't bother with setting the date either.

Cheers and good luck with the repairs!

fernando

while I don't yet have this watch, I have thought about it for a year. The 2121 movement is similar to the VC 1120. Only AP has added th date module.  I had postd a while back about the date setting. Since this watch does not hack, I really thought moving the hands back and forth to date change would have a detrimental effect on the movement. The older JLC movements hack, so changing the date is a non issue. Of course, the comment about the winder, and thus no date changing is needed could be a second problem.   No one ever definitively said why AP feels no harm without stopping the movement. Anyways. Good luck to all in resolving the issues. It still remains a beautiful watch

I have acquired mine 18 months ago and went back for service 4 times:

After reading about some of the issues here regarding the Jumbo (15202) I decided to retrieve mine from the bank and give it some wrist time. It felt and looked great without skipping a beat. It's been over 24 hours and appears to be running well, so I heaved a sigh of relief.

However, this afternoon, I found this on my desk:

 

Initially, I had no idea what it was and didn't have any idea where it came from. Someone had found it near my chair and placed it on my desk. I went out for lunch

wearing the Jumbo and it suddenly dawned on me and I looked at the clasp. It was a pusher which had dislodged itself with the screw missing. Luckily, the part is retrieved and I suppose it's an easy fix with the proper screw. I recall reading somewhere about this happening to others but forgot to check mine for tightness.

I hope this serves as a warning to others to take some precautions with perhaps using Loctite to tighten the screws.

Nevertheless, it's still a wonderful and enjoyable piece to own.

Thanks for looking.

cheers

fernando

I have a Royal Oak chronograph and had a similar incident myself, wore the watch for about three months