Officine Panerai

We very often saw pictures of the modern Cali, in stainless steel, most of the time, in platinum, rarely, and in white gold.

But what about the origins?

I had the pleasure to see one, yesterday, at a small gathering.

The perpetual problem is that most often you never know if you have an assembled watch or not.

Onez thing is sure, the crown is not original.

But the aesthetics is here, and the visual impact is impressive:











When it comes to this kind of stuff, there is always a flame burning in my heart...

Best,

Nicolas.

You burn my heart too!

Merci beaucoup for the wonderful shots!

Ciao

Stephen

My heart beats faster when I look at it...

Once I was offered a superb 6152 4 Lines ( which is a grail for me ), and I just had to sell my 2 Pre Vs and my 2 Vendome.

I decided to do so, but it took too much time.

And you know how much I love my Logo and Mare Pre V!

But there was no doubt in my mind. If I had to get only one, this would be this one.

Nothing can beat these Vintage Panerais.

Best my friend.

Nicolas

I was lucky to be able to see that rare beauty in metal...

So a question for you Nicolas,

Would you sacrifice 2 PreV for a vintage?

For me, it's gonna be really tough...

Although I agree with you that nothing can beat a vintage Panerai, but really I will have a tough time to decide, if I were ever given a chance or offer

Cheers,


Sam

i know what you're Thinking Sam.!

and you are Dangerous :0))))))

Honestly, for now, I have to say NO..

As much as I desire a Vintage Panerai, like other Paneristi

I really cannot afford it unless I sell my pieces

And to sell my PreVs are gonna be the toughest thing I will need to do..

+ that I won't be able to decide which vintage... (more dilemma)

But if I were given the chance and the resource to, I would definitely go for one

Best,


Sam

i was just saying.!  ;0))))

 but if i were you?.  wouldn't Sell any Watch in your Sweet Collection. Period.

 you've got some Serious Time Machines there . Keep Them and ENJOY wear'em All in the Best of Health.

 and let's just Hope that One day you'll Hit the BIG Lotto Number ;0))))))). you'll never know.

Cheers Sam

 

HOW IN THE WORLD DID I MISS YOUR POST about the 202. ??!!!!!!!!

 sorry Sam

 again. MANY Congrats :0))))))))

I'm crossing my fingers Tony )

I hope all is well there... Haven't heard from you for a while

Cheers


Sam

when I see the pics. It was so breathtaking........One of the reason I love about PAMs is the history that is behind it. The history is so rich....And the enthusiasm of PAM collectors who are always eager to share and have great pride in the watches that they owned

And PAM collectors collect only modern ( Vendome ) Panerais.

Hopefully, there is a story outside Vendome pieces.

But I do get what you meant.



Best,

Nicolas.

Thanks for the enlightenment, Nicolas.

who has this mindset. There is always something to learn everyday...thanks again Nicolas.

Cali movement will have the wordings Fab Suisse located differently on the movement with the engraved Rolex wording appearing too as opposed tonthe pics shown. Also the casing looks like a modern Radiomir casing and it looks very mint condition. and also the original Rolex movement on vintage pieces has a lot more tiny tuning screws on the balance wheel compared to pic. The crown should have some Rolex resemblance engraving too. Again I ain't expert but this looks quite good.

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The problem is that many re assembled these Vintage Pannies to make some easy money....

And, from time to time, it is difficult to say if it is original or not.

Hence the problem with the Vintage Panerais.

When you know that some who authentificate the Vintage Panerais are also involved in this " industry "... Some, not all of them.

Best,

Nicolas.

watch does look good! tempting doesnt it... Nice!

500-600? where did you get this quantity from?

 

Over the decades it seems that many knowledgeable parties are increasing the amount of Vintage Panerai/Rolex Watches.

 

Personally I will stick with what I learnt t a time when Panerai was not too famous from trusted parties (Panerai in Firenze, and Marina Militare staff) .  This to say that quantity of PANERAI 3646 was said to be no more, maximum 160 pieces.

 

I would want to learn different, but till such a time…

Rolex 3646 California dial, not all 3646 were distributed to or by Panerai in Firenze. 

Concerning Panerai in Firenze, all 3646 fitted with a Radiomir Dial were actually delivered by Rolex to Panerai in Firenze with a California dial, of those pieces all have a Rolex (engraved) case back (deliveries late 30’s to very early 40’s), those 3646 are housing a Rolex (engraved movement).

There were a few 3646 California dial delivered to the GPF boutique in Firenze, those I know/saw had the same configuration than those destined to the Marina Militare.

 

Passed 1943, I am not sure what happen and who is who…

It is alleged that Rolex directly (or indirectly) delivered some 3646 to the German army, I do not know much of those versions not did I learn the specifics.

 

The Cortébert Rolex 618 was used by some other manufacturers, (Elgin for example).

 

In the case of the watch here shown, no doubt the dial is repainted a repro! The case (based on the photos) seems strange, moreover the crown tube on the case is no correct. The movement can be correct with its engravings, if it is not related to Panerai in Firenze (so far of any watches I know related to Panerai in Firenze or Marina Militare, none I saw had this configuration), and none I saw of the Panerai in Firenze or Marina Militare 3646 had this case back configuration.

Was npot sure, to be honest, but I had a curious and strange feeling, an intuition, to say it better.

Thanks for sharing your expertise and knowledge.

Anyway, these Vintage Pannies are really something, and on this I think we'll agree.

Best, my friend.

Nicolas.

You need to acquire such piece with a secured background, the rest are chamallows.

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Panerai history, sequence of series, delivery order, and relevance, imho, unless all are properly documented and archived, no one is able to ascertain the correctness of it all, this is the interesting part especially for their vintage pieces, where each piece of information, detail, helps to solve the mysterious puzzle for the collectors at large.  But anyways, a Cali dialed Panerai watch is always appealing and pleasing to the eyes.  I like them a lot.  Really.