Officine Panerai

At the 2015 SIHH, Panerai unveiled a Luminor 1950 and a Radiomir 1940 with an Equation of Time display.

It is obviously not the first time Panerai uses this complication since it was already displayed in the Astronomo dial several years ago.

This complication provoked a lot of strong discussions between the watches fans on several media. Basically, the main criticism was the inconsistency between the complication and the purpose of the watch.

When I saw it, I was not chocked at all: after all, it is a way for Panerai to use a complication with a linear display. But honestly, this watch wouldn't be on the top of the list of my fav Panerai.

The questions are as follows:

- do you find the use of this complication appropriate?
- is Panerai trapped in this aesthetic approach?
- shall Panerai propose a new style of watches in order to host this kind of complication?
- how do you see the future of Panerai? is Panerai able to re-invent itself?

A lot of questions but I think that these new watches gve the right opportunity to discuss about these topics.

Thanks for your inputs!

Fx

 

Look at this dial... Where is the consistence? Totally busy, at the contrary of the DNA of the brand, bo balance at all, like if the guys in charge of the development added things here and theren without following a line, an idea... Uninspired.

NOW, Panerai can release watches with complications... BUT they have to create a new line, and use a new case!

Best,

Nicolas

... and some answers are hidden the questions you are asking.

Panerai has IMO 

So, why not new concepts? But with a new line of cases.

The inconsistence may kill Panerai.

Finding new ideas won't.... IF consistent.

Best,

Nicolas

This message has been edited by amanico on 2015-02-08 01:43:13

but personally I can't imagine 

3646, 6152 and 6154 were Rolex cases...

Not a rectangular one, but a nice round one, why not? An elegant case which coudl house elegant complications, in an italian way...

Or why not, ala Rolex, elegant, functional, fundamental... But with a smaller and nicely designed case.

They have to keep the Luminor and the Radiomir case, but they have to launch a new and smaller case, which won't be contradictory with new complications.

IMO...

Best,

Nicolas

They are consistent in constantly

forcing everything into 2 type of cases

good or bad time will tell

Cheers

D

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Submersible case is not considered Luminor case
and "transitional" like 372 is different case
so more cases than some other brands

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so true...

the the constant struggle between what build the brand up and what will take the brand forward...

its been like this since 2010...the brand is trying to grow but constantly takes two steps back for every one forward...

they release the the awesome 587 MM and then release EOT...

sigh...

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weirdly i loved the 365 as the ultimate in panerai complication, here was a great movement in the expanded classic case with a more complex design.

If it comes with domed crystal I would be on my wishlist.

Tommy

It just looks awkward to me, and I think many others feel the same way.  That's why you don't see anyone here posting owner pictures of any of the equation of time Panerai's.

And yes, it would be more fitting if Panerai introduced a new case (and possibly even a new dial design) to house more complicated pieces such as an Equation of Time.  Bring out something new more along the lines of a more dressy Radiomir case rather than a Luminor case.  That way Panerai can expand into the higher complications such as annual and perpetual calendars and give their existing tourbillons & EoT are more suitable case.

Cheers,
Anthony

This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2015-02-09 06:24:19

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what should have been a..show piece...(the Astronomo) has been taken out of its context and depaupered, for reasons that, I believe, can only be traced in a...jokeying for position..scenario. I also believe that, taking the original dial and case, and popping onto it, whatever comes to mind, it's not what I would choose, for the future.....

... but of all complications this one is the last i'm interested in

and at that pricepoint i wonder who will be ??

No seriously this is certainly not the kind of PAM we were waiting for I guess.

... presenting another limited series of the Mare Nostrum following the Mega size of the original. I feel this is a collectors "for display only" watch, like the Egiziano which very few owners will find suitable for daily wear.

I was waiting for a new version of the MN not in Limited Edition, and in a size just a little bigger that the Pre Vendome version, with the plain bezel.

This would not only be a "wearable" watch following a classic and historical design, but also this type of case would allow Panerai to get their followers acustomed to a "different" case shape than the usual Radiomir, Luminor and Bettarini cases and also I feel that the MN case could be better adapted to other type of complication offerings, including other chronos and EOT for example, and could led to another line of Panerai models.

Just a point of view of course!

Cordial regards, Abel.

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I think they look nice but I think the complication is something that doesn't really reach out to a ton of collectors. At least in my opinion. The other thing I noticed on this piece when I saw it in person is that the month indicator seems to probably cover the first number if you have a double digit day when the month reaches the 3 o'clock mark.