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in the metal before I can pass judgement, especially given the difference (as shown in the photo) is not stark. The one from Cartier I like because of the BIG contrast. The shaped case of 3858 to me should be nicknamed "manta-ellipse" ! 😃

I thought I didn't like this Golden Ellipse ref. 3858 powered by cal. 215 , which I found odd. But then I discovered this variant with a two-tone dial and I'm not sure anymore: I'm starting to like it... I'll let you judge if the charm works for you. You

Hi PP fans, What do you think about that vintage 3858 for men ? First of all, do you think that's really for men (because of diamonds) ? Then, for about 4.000 euros with box only, do you think that's good value ? I am looking since a while for a vintage P

can any one tell me about this watch This message has been edited by Dje on 2008-06-09 14:32:47 This message has been edited by Dje on 2008-06-10 23:20:11

i have gold watch similar to the golden elipse with reference 3858 it has no marks in the back just inside and it doesn´t havethe name in the face of the watch, the face is in two color grey and blue with a small golden line, can any one help me on the pr