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hey guys thanks for all your help and input, went to the branch in new bond street unfortunatly there was no history on the watch possibly because its not from the uk so will have to get archive. I will post some pics as soon as i get it in a couple days and start saving for my 5035! :)

thanks for all the help, does any body know of any other differences from all the ellipse apart from the caliber as externally they all look identical..

Hi, i am a new member and hopefully a new patek owner. i am arranging to purchase a vintage golden ellipse from a private antiques dealer who is some what away from me, i plan to take a professional or arrange to go to an independent dealers with buyer to certify authenticity as the watch has no box