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Cant go wrong with either. Nice get. Love R and Black dial

Well done! I think black dials are you thing!

Next years Basel collection will be spectacular! A lot of new combos of complications.

Is this one of the early models made in the late 90 with the black or was it one they made around 2010? Thanks! Great watch! It is next on my list once I find one at the real price!

Good things come to chase who wait. Maybe not always in the form of a 2499/100

Congrats Conkers!

Let us know the experience!

It is a keeper

Both my 5970 and 3970 take about 60 half turns or 30 full rotation. Mine stay wound for about 48hrs. Longer if I wear it them back to back days.