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Go for the one that you love more... Design wise...
The 5146 is the traditional look, but the 5146G with the gray face has an almost too sporty look. A good look nonetheless.
Consider the 5396G which has the look of the old perpetual calendar Patek Philippe watches (3488, 2499, etc.).
Personally, the 5396R or G would be the first Patek Philippe perpetual calendar I'd consider. I was very close to procuring a 5146G. But at the end, I decided I loved the 5396G (with the sector dial at the time) more. Alas, today, I have neither.
Patek Philippe is the inventor of Annual Calendars, first coming with the concept in 1995. So it would definitely be the favorite among all brands with an Annual Calendar. However, this Lange watch is actually a very beautiful watch and really has the underpinnings of a perpetual calendar (look at the AC and PC statistics, there are only about two dozen major part changes, and the AC has half a dozen fewer parts than the PC). The Lange AC is essentially a PC with a few revisions.
In terms of reliability; I find that Patek Philippe perpetual calendars do seem to have a few problems every now and then. It's hard to say for the Langes, as sample size is much smaller, but I haven't heard of any problems. Lastly, the quality of the Lange watch exceeds that of the Patek Philippe watch in many ways (double assembly, slightly better movement finishing, more gold in the case, etc.); but despite these quality advantages, you really have to go for the one that you love the most. If there are two equally smart girls/guys, and you can only marry one of them, go for the one that looks better (aesthetically) to you.
I personally really love that 5396, and I will likely procure one someday.
Lange Saxonia Annual Calendar
Hi guys. I need a bit of help concerning my next purchase. As with most of my watch purchases, it's the same old this vs that blah blah blah. This time it is this or a Patek. I get the impression here that when it comes to Annual Calendars, Pateks are the...
Hi Ianny, at the end of the day it remains your choice....
I have had a PP5396R and I personally prefer its dial to both PP5205 and PP5146, why? Well in my opinion the dial of the 5146 is not well balanced, the subdials at 9 something and 2 something are too close to the centre and the little date at 6 is odd.......
Not an owner ...
and never will. The Saxonia Annual Calendar is nice - nothing more, nothing less. I just miss some spice and it leaves me cold at the end. The PP 5205G with grey dial sings loud to me. I liked it from the first day when it was introduced in 2010 and not o...
Thanks Oliver..
Saw the grey one. Personally, I think it's more legible than the dark dial version. It's a tough but the Lange has the stronger pull factor for me at the moment. I need more time to ponder. Regards, iAn
Some technical advise first ...
The Pateks are a bit simpler in construction: only wheels based. The Lange uses also bars or pins in theire movement. As a rule: the simpler the better? You decide as both will be pretty reliable. Second technical advise: the Lange has much, much more pot...
Very difficult choice...
I own a 5205G and I think it is the most beautiful Annual Calendar from Patek. The Saxonia Annual Calendar has for me several assets: - a very readable big date which is after all what we read the most on the calendar - a balanced dial - the sax-o-mat mov...
Thanks for the photos.
Could you share with me why you chose the Patek 5205 over the Lange AC? Thanks. Regards, iAn
Lange and Patek Annual Calendars
Hi Ianny, Personally I think it is tough call choosing between the Lange Saxonia AC and the Patek 5146. I have both, in white gold; some wrist shots are below. The Lange is an exceptionally legible watch in WG which is something I value a lot for certain ...
Thanks RLD
This won't be my first Lange. I own a couple of others... As for Patek, I've only got a 5712 and was thinking that the 5205 could beef up my Patek collection. But I also like the idea that this is the first Lange AC, whereas the 5205 is one of the many Pa...
For me, Lange in a heartbeat
For me the Lange far surpasses the PP. To begin with it has a large date, which is a significant added complication. Its presentation is clean and classic. Indeed I prefer the crispness of its layouts to the more complicated perpetual. It's micro rotor mo...
Good taste!
I loved the look of the 5205 as soon as I saw it, and was more recently introduced to the Saxonia and found it stunning. Those big, deep blue hands and the big date make for a wonderful presentation! I agree with Oliver that you should definitely look at ...
Sax AC, followed by 5205, then 5146
in the order of preference. elaborate when i see you at the lange boutique tomorrow. coincidentally, i just bought a 5205, but can't bring it to Lange boutique. best, Horo
Thanks Horo..
Was nice speaking with you again. I learned heaps during our "short" conversation. Think it was 3 hours plus this time. :) See you again soon mate. Regards, iAn
Lange AC would be the choice
1. Big Date - incredible for legibility 2. SAX-0-MAT - the only Annual Calendar watch with Zero Reset of seconds. Incredibly useful when setting the time. 3. Hands - Heat Blued steel 4. Cenrifugal Mass - Platinum. ( I think the 5146 does not have a platin...
Two things
1) I would consider a pre-owned Langematik Perpetual over a new Annual, as you may be able to get it for around the same price and you get much more for your money. I have a YG Perpetual and absolutely love it! 2) If you want to compare the Annual to a Pa...
Go for the one that you love more... Design wise...
The 5146 is the traditional look, but the 5146G with the gray face has an almost too sporty look. A good look nonetheless. Consider the 5396G which has the look of the old perpetual calendar Patek Philippe watches (3488, 2499, etc.). Personally, the 5396R...
Thanks Patrick...
What kinds of problems did you have with the Patek AC's? Would you be able to share? Thanks. Regards, iAn
Mostly sticky date problems
With the Patek Philippe ACs. Mostly date problems if I recall (I've seen four with major problems); sometimes the date wouldn't turn properly, get stuck on certain dates, and also the annual calendar wouldn't work, on months with less than 30 days I've se...
Lange's moon display is more precise ...
Am I right stating that? I will go for the Lange. It has a more classical design which will not be outdated. And that micro rotor ... Damo
I like the moonphase too... But I have been told that the mirco
motor isn't the most efficient way of powering the watch. In terms of aesthetics, I am leaning towards the Lange though. Regards, iAn
Both are great! I was in the same shoes as you between these choices...
In the end I got the pp 5146R (rose gold) instead as I love the cream lacquered dial and classical looks. Tough decision! :) I was even comparing these annual calendars with a mont blanc villeret Pulsograph but that was not a fair comparison as that was a...
Thanks Ian!
Thank you Ian for the welcome! :) I see many Lange fans here and I also love Lange watches but just by chance haven't got one yet. I chose a VC Patrimony Traditionelle over a Lange Saxonia and a PP 5146 over the Lange annual calendar before. Looks like a ...
You could consider the 1815 Chrono...
It's not big on the wrist. Or the Datograph (39mm). I own a VC Malte Manual Chrono and love it, but IMHO, Lange Chrono's are in a league of its own. Since you are in Singapore, let's meet up to chat some time. Horogasm and I have been chatting quite a fai...
Sure! Let me know
Hi Ian Sure, PM me know when you next meet up! :) Yes, the Datograph.... stunning :D but... very expensive now (very collectible)! Cheers, robin
The final decision ....
Several trips to the AD were made.... Both were amazing and spoke to me! The Lange Saxonia AC oozes pure class: The Patek 5205 dial is sexy: In the end, I brought the Patek 5205 home. The decision was one of the hardest I've had to make. The Saxonia AC is...
Congratulations iAn,
you seem to have conduct your reflection till the end and this surely helped you take the right decision. I guess you'll post your new catch on the Patek side in a new topic for everyone could share ! Wear it in good health. Cheers, Mark
Thanks Mark!
My only regret is that I didn't have enough dosh to get both. OK, I'll post some pics of the watch on the PP forum. Regards, iAn