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An old 3.2 Carrera is a lot on the street.
I have 2 911s. This one is what I refer to as a street car that’s fun on track. 
By that I mean it’s got street tires and 3 point belts. On a curvy mountain road 2nd 3rd and 4th gears are fun to row through. It makes fun noises and moves around enough to need some counter-steer occasionally.
I also have a 996 GT3. 
This one I call a track car that’s fun on the street. It has 6 point harness, a roll hoop and solid back seats. It’s honestly too much for the street. If you drive it anywhere near 10/10ths, you are flying and really taking risks that make no sense in public.
So I’d say, the old adage of it’s more fun to drive a slow car fast applies to a street car. Many family cars are faster than the old G body 911, but an old driver quality air cooled 911 is engaging to drive hard and will get you as fast as you need on the street.
911 : What is the Romain Gauthier of the 911 world?
What is the best balance between a track baller 911 and a gentleman’s 911 (for non track use, but not a daily driver). To try and put it in watch terms, I’m wondering what is the Romain Gauthier of the 911 world? Everything you want, quietly respected but...
911 Turbo S or 911 GTS
A colleague got a preowned 2023 GT3 in December (he's now had 2). Two weeks later, I asked him how many times he's redlined it. He said he hadn't yet. I was a bit gobsmacked. Why buy that car and not blast it to its 9K RPM redline? I told him it was like ...
"Why buy that car and not blast it to its 9K RPM redline?"
For the same reason many people buy overvalued watches and never wear them. A typical Porsche GT buyer doesn't even drive their car beyond 1k miles per year and that's if they drive them at all. The market is full of these cars being flipped shortly after...
Unfortunate but true…
Even in Germany you need to be exceedingly lucky to see a Porsche at much beyond 100mph and the only one I have seen above 135 in the last 4 years was a Taycan 😉 All the GT3s seem to reside in urban areas primarily… And you’re fully right. A lot of owners...
Interesting question…
It used to be a bragging point being able to get from A to B in minimal time. It appears many from that generation are out of the workforce and some no longer driving. If you look at the overall statistics nowadays hardly anyone exceeds the recommended sp...
I suppose they are…
The local dentist where we used to live also desperately wanted a 911. He drove a Cayenne as a daily and was incredibly eager for a 911 on top. Then he made some test drives and was horrified and didn’t like the experience at all. He finally still bought ...
"My question is more what is the 911 that won’t be too much for the novice, that’s not going to be a widowmaker like the old 930 Turbo."
It all depends on what "novice" means here. Are you a novice driver or are you a novice sports car driver. Assuming driven as intended, IMO any 911 can be a widowmaker to a novice driver. As to a novice sports car driver, perhaps a Carrera 4 is a better c...
Using the example of me…
…I’ve driven (owned) fast cars. I’ve done a few two day track schools in fast cars (with all the other learnings off the track). So maybe a “novice sports car driver”. I’m curious as to what that middle ground is, and what the more curated choice might be...
Funny thinking these are too dangerous
NA 500 hp isn’t too crazy. I’m more worried about the person in their model S plaid. That being said I always wanted a gt3, and about three years ago was offered one, but by then my kids were getting into booster seats. I decided to go into a carrera T. I...
The new ones are fast !
I’ve driven the .2 gts. Super fast. Can’t imagine the new turbo s
I agree that the 911 Turbo S
and the 911 GTS fit the bill. Both can be driven daily, do not attract attention as the wild spoiler driven models, having amazing performance when wanted or needed, comfortable interiors with up to date technology, great sound systems and they make great...
That's called a "Carrera T" which is now more than $150k in the US without options...
But, as we all know, a Porsche without options is almost impossible to own.
from the recent 911 ranges you should avoid GT2, GT2 RS and GT3 RS
the rest is babied by electronics 50, 40 and 30 years ago you had to have respect with every 911 model
The ultimate wolf in sheep’s clothing is the GT3 touring.
Looks like a base Carrera but with all the grit of the GT3 it’s a IYkYK car. ...
King ! 😎
Love your rides and watch especially! For me I’m hoping for a touring allocation or will just stick to T. I want manual and take kids in the back seats👍
That is one of the things I do like of the 992.2 touring
Is the option for back seats. But other than that I’m an OG I prefer the 991.2 touring especially in PTS slate grey.
I think overall your touring better
Less opf filters and emissions stuff. I also like the looks of .1 better. But for backseats , need the .2 🤷♂️
Absolutely that is a big bonus of the .2
Especially with our little ones to be able to enjoy the drives with us. I can only take one at a time unless I’m in one of our SUVs.
It’s a thoughtful and valid question, especially as prices of my 911 have through the roof.
I use my 997.2 GT3 as a daily driver, I’ve never tracked it nor do I want to. I have friends who ask me why I don’t race that car, I tell them I don’t need another hobby that I Suck at..but I digress. I like the following: 911 GTS, 4S and T come to mind a...
I remember going to the dealership
Having brand new 997.2 gt3 in white sitting on lot. Test drive and everything. It wasn’t the time for me. But I love that model
I would only buy a GT3 variant.
If I were forced to return to the Porsche Welt, I would return to a GT3 vehicle, which have improved tremendously and have recently become a double-wishbone suspension car. A more gentlemanly GT3 variant is the "GT3 Touring" variant which eliminates the b...
An old 3.2 Carrera is a lot on the street.
I have 2 911s. This one is what I refer to as a street car that’s fun on track. By that I mean it’s got street tires and 3 point belts. On a curvy mountain road 2nd 3rd and 4th gears are fun to row through. It makes fun noises and moves around enough to n...
964 is Goldilocks.
I wanted a 964 RS America when I got my 3.2 Carrera around 20 years ago, but did not feel I could afford it then. They have skyrocketed in value since then and for good reason!