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AP 15202 vs Vacheron Overseas
To many, the integrated steels sports watch arena is overcrowded, and the debate about which is the best has grown tiresome. I know it has for me, and yet I continue to be attracted to this genre of watches. I've loved braceleted watches since before the hype gave birth to a myriad of Nautilus and Royal Oak knock offs, and yet I have never owned a sports watch with a properly integrated bracelet.
Maybe one day that will change, and if it did, I think it would be between an AP 15202 Royal Oak and a new generation Vacheron Overseas.
I'd love to canvas the group here for opinions about which one you might choose, or if neither floats your boat, perhaps an alternative?
Comparison
Amanico compares the 2016 Girard-Perregaux Laureato and Vacheron Constantin Overseas, exploring their 70s design influences and market positioning against iconic sports watches.
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AP 15202 vs Vacheron Overseas
To many, the integrated steels sports watch arena is overcrowded, and the debate about which is the best has grown tiresome. I know it has for me, and yet I continue to be attracted to this genre of watches. I've loved braceleted watches since before the ...
For me it's easily VC.
because I got tired of the AP BS, I have long written off that manufacturer.
I agree....
But if you really want a specific piece there's always the used marketplace....
:)
This is another reason why the VC is attractive. Can be had for retail, and even slightly below retail currently.
Yes VC never played that game to my knowledge.
You would have to wait for the hot pieces, but you could get one, just didn't know when. Not this, prove to us you are worthy. That's laughable. it should be the other way around.
Give it time the pendulum will swing again the other way.
And when it does remember those that took care of you and those that didn’t.
Yup, long before the craze they were pulling off BS like that.
I had ordered (or was put on the list) for a 15202 like 8 years ago from the Vegas and NYC boutiques. They said it would be about a year wait. 2 years go by and I call and they have no record of it. Plenty of excellent choices out there, I certainly don't...
What’s wrong
You don’t want to be told to make a pilgrimage to 48 different AP boutiques to BuiLd A RelATioNhSiop with a salesman before you’re allowed to buy a watch? 😂
Sounds like a joke and you wait for the punch line..
Only to find out that indeed it is true and that you the customer are the punch line.
For my money and taste....
the VC, not that there's anything remotely undesirable about the AP........
Had both!
Would do VC because movement is more robust! Lacquer blue is awesome but tapeserie dial is nice too! VC wears bigger.. ...
I had the blue dial, prob my crappy iPhone at the time.
But the VC def had more heft than the 15202, which was very light, prob due to thinness. The AP fits under a cuff well, not so much the AP. The 15202 had a JLC movement from 1972 (not the 16202), which didn’t change much. My actual crown came out… If you ...
Yes! Sent to AP Clearwater after that…
But maybe I just had a bad movement, others have diff experience.. ...
When it comes to integrated bracelets I seem to prefer real (distinct) center links.
I don't care too much for the way the VC links dovetail. The AP has a more attractive bracelet in my opinion. Another great integration is obviously the Nautilus bracelet. And there are some very nice bracelet integrations to be found on some Ingenieurs. ...
My take on this segment:
I like wearing waterproof watches with seconds and date, so I’ve been interested in these for a long time. The VC Overseas 3 was released with a robust movement sized for the case. The current APRO 15500 has received a larger movement as well. I have no e...
Thank you for your insights!
The 50m of WR on the Jumbo definitely gives me pause. I have also been curious about the Czapek Antarctique line.
VCAP almost always. And even more so now AP has started
fitting their entire 15550 line with an outsourced movement. I hate it when companies do that. Love the Chopard AE suggestion in this thread.
Had many 15202 before the 40th anniversary
Now I'm in complete awe with the Finissimo. The bracelet has no great design like the overseas, but it wears like a feather, especially if you choose the titanium, which is 30m WR only (steel is 100m WR). There are many worthy alternatives to the hyperinf...
Alternatives include...
The Patek Philippe Nautilus which is a little more comfortable than both the VC and the AP. And the Chopard Alpine Eagle as well as the Genta-designed Bulgari Octo Finissimo.
AP for sure
But consider some of the vintage references, I know you're into vintage! They look great with some patina. I have a Royal Oak from the early 2000s with a moonphase that I like, but some parts are very half assed. IE the cutout for the date...I hate that i...
Used to own the Overseas in black 4500V.
If I had bought the timegrapher sooner, I might still keep this watch. Let me explain. I always like setting accurate time and tracking the timing performance. There were 2 things that annoyed me: (1) the movement did not hack; (2) when pushing back the c...
Great post! 👍 Good points. I remember my Overseas Gen II Chrono doing the same when pushing the crown in.
…and the date window jars a bit too. Lovely blue dial though.
