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The Master Minute Repeater Acoustic Passport.
Minute Repeaters are a kind of obsession, for me.
When thinking about them, I was wondering if they come with their " acoustic" passport, I mean, a document which relates all their acoustic parameters.
I remember that my IWC Portuguese Minute Repeater didn't have such a document.
I wonder if any Minute Repeater from another brand comes with this kind of document, as it is the case for the JLC Master Minute Repeater:
From the top to the bottom, you have the following informations for the Hour gong ( left ) as well as for the Minute gong ( right ).
- Volume: 69.6 / 72.7 dBA.
- Reverberation in ms: 164 / 132.
- Richness ( partials ): 3 / 4.
- Pitch - Tuning - Interval: Sib 5 + 20 Cents / Ré 6 + 26 Cents.
All these datas have been tested under the conditions at Jaeger-LeCoultre laboratories, and they are specific to each Master Minute Repeater.
It would be interesting to know the specifications of all the MMRs, in my opinion, so if any of you wants to share his datas, it would be great.
It is also interesting to see how close we are, in the terminology, to the world of music, and how far we are from an ordinary sound, here.
Best,
Nicolas.
This message has been edited by amanico on 2011-03-22 03:39:59
The Master Minute Repeater Acoustic Passport.
Minute Repeaters are a kind of obsession, for me. When thinking about them, I was wondering if they come with their " acoustic" passport, I mean, a document which relates all their acoustic parameters. I remember that my IWC Portuguese Minute Repeater did...
If I had one, I would gladly share this information with you.
Problem is I don't have one. Best regards, George
One question.
Why does the hand for torque indicator always turn to 0 while winding the watch? Best Tyler
Because when you wind the watch ...
The Torquemeter doesn't work, which is logical: How can you measure something which is instable ( the winding )? Best, Nicolas.
Very cool...another neat characteristic..
for the great piece...didn't know that this detail was meaured and documented as well.. If I had one, I would share. However, for now, I live vicariously thru others..
Thanks for your kind comments, Phil.
This is another aspect I didn't mention in my previous posts on this watch, indeed. I felt it was interesting to share it with all of you, and to maybe cross our informations on th MMRs. Best, Nicolas.
This is extremely cool,
But for such exceptional quality I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised. One day I would like to own a minute repeater. This one in particluar is a pleasure for the eyes. Best,
Hence my initial question...
Is this usual to have these acoustic measures when you get a M.R? I find this is a great idea, personally. Thanks for your input, emcquillan. Best, Nicolas.
One day Nico...!!!
So these are about 10-20K second hand then eh..?? LOL I assume they must also have company specifications for each of these parameters to pass..? Very interesting info...I wonder how different manufacturers differ in their specifications. Do YOU consider ...
I never had the chance to hear a PP, except on soundfiles ...
Which is not enough to judge it. One very good M.R I heard was the VC Skeleton platinum, which is truly a masterpiece. I posted, some time ago a file which was publihed by Vanity Fair. They compared several M.R from brands such like A.P, and V.C, with the...
Nic owning a MR is like the summit of Mt.Everest, not easy, very few achieve it, but..
once you get there, it must be an awesome feeling...... fantastic watch, for a fantasic fella... Imran
Thanks for your ... Fantastic comments, Imran.
This watch is an achievement, in its kind. Sure! Best, Nicolas.
In my personal opinion
this is one of the nicest designs JLC have ever done in a wristwatch and its probably also the nicest complication you can have. not the most complicated or most fancy watch from JLC BUT I think its in their all time top 3 of THE NICEST - big words, I kno...
Everybody doesn't agree on the Gyro I, a lot preferring the Gyro II
But, like you, I prefer the Gyro I, for its play of transparency, or even better, with an awesome finish on the WG versions. Funny that you mention the Gyro I: Because of this MMR ( or thanks to it ... ) I totally under appreciated, for a long time, the G...
You know my heart beats faster every time I see this beauty! :)
Very cool document! And it’s “personal” for each watch! Thank you for sharing this with us, Nico! Best, my friend Blomman
I will soon ask if I can get more informations about these documents, Blomman.
This is the kind of document I appreciate a lot. Very à propos, for a M.R. Another link to the musical world; Best, Blomman. Nicolas.
A most beautiful watch...
Nicolas, do you know if it would be possible to post a recording of your watch's song on this web site? I'm sure I'm not the only one who would love to hear her sing! N
Here is the link to the Vanity Fair Article...
jlc.watchprosite.com And here is the link to the MMR soundfile: www.youtube.com Best, Nicolas.
Thank you very much for the link...
...I don't understand how JLC gets that type of fantastic sound out of such a small and beautiful package. N
Nico, are you...
..able to confirm whether the 'Sib5' refers to the Audio software used for analysis (Sibelus)? If so, you should ask JLC for the data...Now that would be fascinating. And would go towards your question of 'how far we are from an ordinary sound'.
Ben, Si b stands for " Si Bémol " in my opinion.
As the Minute gong is another note, a " Ré ". Best, Nicolas.
Solfege
I think I get it now. Usual over thinking and lack of French...and a jazz pianist brother-in-law with that program... Si Bemol=B flat, Re=D. Do you have a Piano? It might be fun operating the MMR next to one.... This message has been edited by BDLJ on 201...
Brilliant...
It speaks volumes about the manufacturer to hand out such documentations. And your MMR is much much better looking than most around. :o) Ed
Well, there are 2 other M.R which I loved / love a lot...
The VC Skeleton, in platinum, which is a masterpiece, one of my 5 favourite watches in the world, and a superb AP, with a very simple dial, in titanium. The Portuguese is also a very nice watch, but I sold it ( and some other watches) to get this JLC MMR ...
Hello from Titanium #17 =)
Click on the picture to hear the mp3 recording: Sorry for the background noise and poor sound quality (used a point and shoot to record), and for your reference, I held the watch in the air close to the camera (and not on any tabletop since I felt that it...
I'm dreaming of the day we'll be able to measure these 2 sisters side by side.
Hi, C Yes, I'm dreaming of the day we'll be able to meet and to have a glass while measuring our respective MMRs. The real test is the " ear test ", the numbers are here to give us an idea of the intrinseque acoustic values of the watch. I knew I could co...
Hello, Vinontre.
I gathered more informations on the acoustic values of the MMR... Will prepare something about this topic. Best, Nicolas.
You started the road to madness....
that made me love JLC for quite a while now....You know that as much as I like JLC lines including Memos,Reversos,Sports,I absolutely go crazy foe JLC approach to high end watches....The Duos,my still dream 8 days skeleton,the Gyro1(not 2!!!!!!)and ultima...
There are not a lot for sale, currently, Mo ...
But if you're patient, one may spot, one of these days. You know all my love for this watch. This is one fo those I ALWAYS bring with me, all around the world. And certainly one of the last I'd let go, if ever I had the need to. Yes, I think you can thank...
GRAIL masterpiece ! - Stunned always .. :))
I was reluctant to respond to this - as what was I about to say, not to mention commenting ? .. So all, I can say is, that triggered by that, I was (yesterday late evening) again re-reading your previous great post about it,, where you had described it in...
This is one of these watches you can't entirely discover in short time.
It took me a very long time to be able to FULLY appreciate it, to discover ALL the details on this MMR. I own it for almost 4 years, now, and I can seriously say that it was a grail and still is. It is also my pleasure to share it with you, from time to t...
So: LIFE- watch -- not only GRAIL piece :))
Thank you for your kindness, sharing not only articles, facts but also emotions and even some parts of the personal genese - Even greater thanks, this way - to also share this part of your life, as it so kindly appears. That I consider a pretty big honor ...
Indeed I understand that you are curious to compare
even your watch to another JLC MR, just to see if they are different. Aside from the Hybris mechanicas, This watch is in my top 2 with the Master 8 D perpetual SQ. Enjoy it every day !
Well, I spent several years testing them.
And I even noticed that not all the MMRs from the same metal sound the same way... It is also a matter of setting the different parameters. Fascinating. You have great taste, by the way. Best, Nicolas.
Thanks ! and yes I guess that the slightest piece of metal added or
the screws less or more tightened and it should sound differently.
learnt something new again...
... i have no answer for you, but i am also interested in knowing it more, very interesting passport. stefan