F.P. Journe - from Mech

from Mech

like Nic, these are my personal opinion base on your choices:

RL has always been on my list, the plat ver is one of those killer watches for me, dead accurate, simple elegance and unsurpassed finishing of any lange watches you can imagine. And guess what, for its price, it's the best value for money piece. Asetheically, it's also perfect for me, I would prefer this than the new PLM

As for Journe, I guess CS is one iconic pieces and timeless in my own opinion and one of those which I haven't read anyone complained of any problem so far. For other pieces, I'm sure a simple search will provide many 'problem' hits. But if you're buying new from an AD, I guess the worse you could get is have it sent back and fix those known problems, but I cannot say this is acceptable to me, but apparently for some, the journey is 'special' . I own one of the most problematic ones, the Resonance. But I have the good fortune of owning a lucky 'perfect' piece, pre-owned, discontinued and tested. I had this for many months now and it's dead accurate, none of those problems happen to my piece (yet ). I'm happy that the previous owner tested it and paid for the depreciation value before parting it to me, what can I ask for ?

5130 is not my piece, sorry, i guess my dual time zone resonance is good enough to fill that gap and it's manual wind! I've preference for it over automatic movement because I love to admire more of the fantastic movements of my lange and journe and I enjoy winding them regularly. I had the JLC Master Geographic, a nice one but all I need is just a dual time zone actually but if I had to choose one, I guess patek is always my preferred choice.

But if you need to get a patek, consider its calatrava range, they're a beauty! My only automatic watch is a 3940 Perpetual, only if it was a manual wind, it could well be my only watch I would own

Just me.

Mech.

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Journe, Lange or Patek

By: coteje : September 8th, 2009-11:06

I am having a difficult time deciding between the Journe CS, the Lange Richard Lange and the Patek 5130 World time (pretty different from the other two I realise). From an aesthetic point of view I find the Journe particularly appealing, but some reports ...

Are you looking for an automatic or a manual movement?

By: amanico : September 8th, 2009-11:48

If Manual, then end of the game for the PP 5130, which is the only automatic among these 3. If you're ok with an automatic movement, and a nice one with a superb micro rotor, and a friendly complication ( World Time ), then the PP is for you. If you're on...

thanks for the input Nicolas

By: coteje : September 8th, 2009-11:52

Manual or automatic are both fine, though come to think of it, I haven't had a manual since I was a little boy (a long, long time ago).

My choice would be for the CS....................

By: Topcat30093 : September 8th, 2009-14:15

Although I admire all three marks . I personally wouldn't benefit from the world timer. The lange is a fantastic brand and the movements are absolutely stunning, but I am not a fan of the dial with its Roman Numerals. The CS, is a great watch very accurat...

First thing I agree...

By: sidneyc : September 8th, 2009-18:14

.. that you've got a nice problem to have!! Whatever you decide out of these 3 in the end you'll have a great sample from the elite. Those 3 watches are very different watches so it really depend on what you like. Which metals are you thinking of? With RL...

Between those

By: tahoeblue : September 8th, 2009-20:55

I would go with Journe CS. But what about some others, such as Lange 1?

I think it depends on what you are looking for...

By: dxboon : September 8th, 2009-23:18

...a complication? A dress watch? A unique dial? Of the choices presented, I have a hard time deciding between the FPJ and the Lange. For my taste, the Richard Lange is the ultimate simple, solid, beautifully-finished dress watch. So, if you are looking f...

reliability should not be an issue

By: albcwc : September 9th, 2009-07:20

i own both brands as well as others. while i've had to have both my journes (which include a CS) and my langes serviced, the journes are no more likely to need servicing, or need it more often, than the langes, in my experience. The CS is a relatively unc...

Enviable position, indeed!

By: marcelo : September 9th, 2009-19:08

But yet a difficult decision… I would have a bit of a hard time deciding between the Journe and Lange but, at the end, I would probably get the Richard Lange. Whatever's the choice, you will own a superb watch - that's for sure Marcelo

Thanks to all

By: coteje : September 10th, 2009-09:55

for your informative and helpful comments. I went back to the Journe shop here in Paris today to take a second look at the CS, then on the way back home stopped by another jeweller's to look at the Lange. Increasingly I'm tending toward the CS, in its 38m...

from Mech

By: Mech : September 10th, 2009-18:28

my view

By: optionc : September 11th, 2009-09:51

Actually, I have the good fortune of owning all three... RL platinum, 5130p, CS Black Label 38mm. RL PL - has a heft and feel that is unsurpassed. technically incredible 5130p - best world time watch in my opinion. CS BL - elegant, slim, and amazing movem...

All Three

By: bs22fly : September 12th, 2009-03:40

Ok. I know that doesn't help but all three are beauties. However, since this is the Journe forum you know where my bias will be. The Richard Lange has a classic design that is simple and elegant. The movement, like all Langes perfectly executed. However, ...

Of the three,

By: Mostel : September 12th, 2009-07:51

I would choose the Journe, then Lange, and then, by many lengths, the Patek. I have not heard of many problems with the CS. If possible, getting a pre-owned CS would be a great value. I think of the tree, the CS kind of stands alone. The Lange is superb. ...