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i use one with my perp and another with a triple date moonphase
i wouldnt have thought they would damage a watch as quite a few top end pieces come with winding boxes. Patek are one example as are breguet i believe. would they do it if it caused harm? their reputation is everything so they surely wouldnt jeopardise it would they?
we all want the best for out watches so need guidance from the makers
We are left alone to decide what to do with winders...
(I posted the following in the Breguet Forum, and I also post it here to have more interaction on the Winders issue...) Not to use a winder, if a collection has many complicated watches, will leave the oils of the timepiece standing, and to service all th...
That's a frightening thought John
Please elaborate. Coming from you it makes us all stand to attention. Are we really better off not keeping our watches on winders. Once you have 5, 6 or more setting them gets to be a big chore. Is it really as simple as that. Wanting to know more??? Than...
I don't use my winders for anything other than perpetuals
it's not that big a chore to set a watch before wearing it if it's just time and date. to me a winder is like leaving your car idling all the time so you don't have to turn the key.
I guess the real point...
I guess the real point is … will you harm the watch. I mean that is the real concern. If the question do you need a winder because you are lazy and don't like setting your watches each the answer is obviously no. You do not need a winder. But on the other...
I think so
Hi Bill, The question is very complex and obviously there are many opinions around about it, but my generalized opinion is that winfees should only be used in extreme situations (very complicated calendar watches or very sedentary individuals) or with ext...
Do we need automatic watch winders?
As the number of watch owners having one or more automatic watches continues to grow, one of the most frequently asked questions is “Do I need an automatic watch winder”? To begin, I must point out that, despite the fact that my company has been a pioneer...
no easy answers
Hello All, This is clearly not a cut and dried discussion and I certainly respect the opinion Jack expressed and his knowledge and experience even if I ultimately disagree with his conclusions. To me, the argument really must be broken down in some respec...
Sounds pretty definitive
Thanks John for you expert opinion. So I guess I may start to think about simply using the winder as a show case and or set all the winders to the minimum setting of 500-600 TPD as the happy medium. I also have a winder that run once every 15 minutes doin...
John, this is..
the most logical post on the subject, in my opinion... Well expressed... In our ancient Greek heritage there is the saying "Pan Metron Ariston" which mean more or less" that good measure is always the best solution"... But I would like to know why the big...
what would they say?
Hi Tassos, The watch companies I've worked for have on occasion said to specific customers that the company does not recommend watch winders, while also occasionally recommending them to customers that seem to have demonstrated that they are too sedentary...
Hi John, your opinion makes perfect sense to me.
I believe that if a watch is put on the winder too often, there will be more severe wear and tear on the parts. In my case, even for my perpetual calendar, I don't put on the winder. After all, it will take less than 5 minutes to reset it and it is fun to...
I also now subscribe to...
I also now subscribe to the same opinion. I was running winders in the safe but as you noted it is best to spend a few minutes and reset when you want to wet the watch a couple of times a year. Bill
Winders do NOT prematurely wear watches
I visited the PP headquarters in Geneva and asked this exact question to a craftsman in the minute repeater room. After a few seconds of consideration the answer I was given was: If a watch isn't worn for an extended duration and would otherwise sit, it's...
Wow! This is an old thread.
I\'ve had my IWC perpetual on an Orbita winder for nine years and three months (more or less). When I bought it, the watch was a year behind and it took hours to wind it forwards. I don\'t want to do that again. I suppose I wear it about 20 days a year, p...
given the brand, Jack would clearly be your guy
I'd love for him to snap some super-macro pics of the rotor bearing and automatic gear train. Heck, I'd even come over to his shop and take the pictures. :) _john