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Some details...

 

Hi,
besides the style, which looks a bit unusal for Heuer of that period , here are some tech details:
- case back, look at the different style of signing, while steel and numbering is clearly stamped, Heuer
signature seems to be milled or otherwise etched with different process - that should be stamped as well.
- dial looks refinished to me, washed out/rounded edges/transitions of small register dials and wrongly
printed with swiss made (should be Switzerland during that period)
- movement chrono bridge is grinded down (jewel sinks are too shallow, compare with the others), surface different from
other bridges and engraving work is sloppy - different depth of letters - besides that different signature to case ....


That's only few points, but enough to know what it most likely is.

Best regards
Suitbert

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Interesting vintage Heuer...

 
By: doobooloo : June 4th, 2014-20:32
Just picked up this interesting little Heuer. Seller said from the 50s, but given the movement has Heuer Leonidas stamped on it, probably from the 60s? The two things that spoke to me in pulling the trigger was the color of the dial and the shape of the l...  

To be honest...

 
By: doobooloo : June 4th, 2014-20:36
To be honest, I am not sure how much of this piece is original, so if the resident experts here could point out some anomalies or shed some interesting light on the piece, I'd really appreciate it! That said, I really like the piece as-is regardless of it... 

I hesitated to write it, but yes, I am not feeling very comfortable with the originality.

 
By: amanico : June 4th, 2014-23:37
I am not expert, so no statements, here, just guess / intuitions. I don't think the movement goes with the Watch. To me, the movement is much later, compared to the dial. But let's wait for a more serious opinion... Best, nicolas.

Honestly....

 
By: SuitbertW : June 4th, 2014-23:54
Hi, honestly, I personally don't believe there's even one "part" original Heuer. Dial, case and movement all looks signed/refinished at a later point..... Best regards

Thanks! Now...

 
By: doobooloo : June 5th, 2014-04:45
Thanks for your honest and knowledgeable input! So - you are saying the parts were probably not even original Heuer parts - i.e. generics or aftermarket stamped with the Heuer logo down the line? Or are they themselves "genuine" Heuer parts but from vario... 

Some details...

 
By: SuitbertW : June 5th, 2014-07:15
Hi, besides the style, which looks a bit unusal for Heuer of that period , here are some tech details: - case back, look at the different style of signing, while steel and numbering is clearly stamped, Heuer signature seems to be milled or otherwise etche... 

Thanks! The details...

 
By: doobooloo : June 5th, 2014-19:44
Thank you for the detailed descriptions of the issues! Going back and examining I agree those are all strong pointers to the fact that the parts are not original and have been tampered with. It's all in the details and you are helping me get a better eye ...