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Preserving traditional watchmaking skills is a different variable from innovation!
I would also say that innovation must remain comprehensible to collectors. For example, the Zenith Defy Inventor with the 18hz superfast jiggly silicon web which takes the place of escapement is an innovation. But, it leaves me cold as I can't easily and intuitively see what part is jiggling to do what... It lacks connection and, therefore, soul. A quartz movement might be much better at that point.
Meanwhile, the Breguet 7227 classique chronometrie has a lot of innovation with a 10hz, magnetic pivots movement, but remains very easy to immediately comprehend, so is much more satisfying a watch for me. Just my take!
Greubel Forsey: I tried on the Hand Made 1! Did you know a Hand Made 2 AND Hand Made 3 are coming???
What do YOU think of Greubel Forsey watches? WatchTime NY was last weekend and I got to try on a number of nice things. One of the nicest is the 95% handmade Hand Made 1 by Greubel Forsey. I found out there are two sequels planned! The Hand Made 2 will ha...
Very nice
A brand whose watches I really like but even had I the budget I don't have the wrists to wear the watches. Still, I like looking at them. Thank you.
Their new tourbillon is fascinating mechanically
But the watch doesn't work aesthetically for me at all. It somehow lacks that "weird" Greubel X-factor. Almost too restrained, trying too hard to look like a conventional watch. When I see a Greubel, I want it to be crazy.
At face level, the Handmade 1 reminds me of Lecomte…
but the other GF tourbillon pieces are incomparable.
The aesthetic is one others are catching up to.
It will be interesting to see GF shift gears!
GF make incredible machines...
...my only nitpicks other than price, is that every one I've seen (and I've seen some in person) are very large and thick.
Yes, the dimensions are challenging, sometimes.
The price is challenging all the time! But I do like their more classic options versus their sporty models. ...
One of my personal favorites!
Haven't seen one in-person, but it's a beautiful design and all the video + high res shot I've seen look immaculate. I think GF deserves a ton of credit for these too, they are very perfect compared to other "handmade" guys like Roger Smith whose work is ...
You're right, they use CNC since 2008 or so
But the older ones were, right? Either way, its not ok for a watch that costs $$$ when GF can make something perfect 100% handmade.
The glue gun is operated by hand!
The Hand Made 1 is 6x (or so) the price. So, it's not quite anything like an equal comparison, of course.
Wow! The price has dramatically increased!!!
That's a little shocking. They have a full book of orders and I wish them well.
It's more than a little shocking in my opinion.
It's also very risky for them. If the auction hype wanes, they will be in major trouble.
Yes, it's actually a turn-off for me.
I guess they only need 10 people a year to think that 500k is a good price for their watch.
Yes…
I don’t think obvious mistakes that are very fixable are ok I’m that range personally. Just shows a lack of pride in one’s work.
A glue gun!?! Haha, I know what you mean.
Minor oops as a sign of hand made can be nice, like you can see that a person made this thing that you now have. Big oops not so much. GF seems to really strive for a higher level and that's very nice. I recommend trying on a few pieces, the Hand Made 1 i...
I mean, GF is pretty clear about what goes into the the Hand Made 1 ;)
I'd say yes, but I'd be happy to hear what you think!
I applaud GF for their incredibly high standards and their movement architecture
What I don't appreciate, just like with most other independent uber-complicated and perfectly finished watches, is the design. It often lacks grace and proportion. Call me crazy, but if you made me choose between a simple Rolex or Cartier and a GF (that I...
To what extent are finishing and hand-made worthy?
It's been a while I'm overthinking that they represent definitely the pinnacle of finishing...but are there any real advancements in watchmaking? All these independents, basically the same Kari Francois Gf style.... i don't know, it's what the market ( an...
Preserving traditional watchmaking skills is a different variable from innovation!
I would also say that innovation must remain comprehensible to collectors. For example, the Zenith Defy Inventor with the 18hz superfast jiggly silicon web which takes the place of escapement is an innovation. But, it leaves me cold as I can't easily and ...
Wow, I didn't realize the HM2 was already in production (or prototyping)
Very cool! Did you get any news about the new watch neant to showcase hand finishing?
This Hand Made really speaks to me
It pushes all the right buttons. Normally Im not drawn in by GF but respect what they do. PS. I heard they stopped using natural leather for their straps. Did they mention what these where?
Me, too!
They use a plant-based material, but I don't think they've said what it is specifically.