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Thank you very much!!!
Firstly thank you very much for writing to me. Secondly thank you so much for allowing me to win the bid and own this piece unique! I really mean that. I have to tell you this. The maximum I would have bidded on this piece would have been 20k USD. If you had placed a higher bid, I would have instead gone for the Tefnut Grand Dame that finally went for the bargain price of 8k USD. Unfortunately as much as I would have liked to own both pieces, I am financially not able to. As I was telling Mike H, I have used my entire watch budget for 2019 and in a way wish I was not going to the SIHH next month as it could be a very frustrating visit.
So it was a judgement call - this watch or the Tefnut Grand Dame and yes, this costs over twice as much, admittedly, with the pocket watch and I actually prefer the back side of the Tefnut which does not have the silver ring around the movement. But the dial of this watch, the Atum 37 enamel has a wow factor and is the perfect example of how less is more!!!
I am based in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia but frequent the UK quite often. I would love the privilege of meeting you one day and once again, I thank you for helping me buy this watch. I am not as financially well heeled as many purists but I am passionate and love the few watches that I own.
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An auction with a difference!
Moritz Grossmann was founded in 2008 and celebrates its 10th anniversary this year. The company has decided to issue 24 piece uniques of various models including some with brand new movements. Twenty four to me seems like a lot for a company the size of M...
My friend this Atum rose gold enamel dial is absolutely superb !!!
I must confess the other options are less of my taste but this first one is truly stunning ! I strongly hope you can manage to get it, it is top class my friend Looking forward to a positive outcome for your bid, Mike
Thanks Mike!
Mine is the top bid so far but I expect more activity on the last day of the auction and I am not sure if I will be able to keep up with the competition. I will try
You will be the first Mike!!
I have decided to stay next to my laptop for the entire last day!!
Hope you will get it my friend .
It sure is a stunning and classic watch . Great dail too 👌🏻😘
Fingers crossed my friend 🤞🏻
Looking forward to see you there again . Will DM you soon
Looking forward to it my friend.
If we can't meet at the SIHH, I am sure we will meet somewhere else soon!
Great news!
I have tentatively reserved lunch with you!! I will bring my Lang & Heyne with me and perhaps a Moritz Grossman too!!
Looking forward to see you again my friend , also to see your stunning L&H .
And i do hope you can bring the MG with you as well 🙏🏻🤗
I am targeting two Moritz Grossmann watches
and will be ecstatic to end up with one!! Two days plus left to go. I prefer auctions that do not last for two weeks but only for a few minutes! Way too nerve wrecking
Four years plus my friend
but you are right except with the RWS, I know it is a sure thing so waiting is fine whereas with this auction nothing is certain!!
I know what you mean my friend 😉
I can be also very impatient as well for small things and easily wait for a watch for 1,5 year
We have many similar likes and dislikes my friend!
Did you go to Salon QP last month?
Nope no way to escape at this period of the year
Difficult to take days off at the end of the year for a sales manager...
And I always thought
sales managers would be celebrating inl December after working hard all year round!!
You are right my friend, after Dec 31st when the year is over
and if the results are matching the budget objectives as expected, then we shall celebrate believe me. Did you ever see a sportsman starting to enjoy and relax just before the finish line ?
Actually, yes I have Mike!!
Usain Bolt at his best before the end of the 100 meters!!!
There are 2 small differences between us...
My race lasts one year and not few seconds, And I cannot run as fast as him for sure 🤣 So I have to stay focused till the very end 😉
It happens but not every race
There are some better years than others and when times are difficult it is when you must make more efforts
That is the ethos of a good athlete Mike!! :-)
Hope you exceed the budget by the year end and reward yourself with another watch!!!
Thanks Nico!
I would have liked it even without the pocket watch which just bumps up the price!! Less than four long days to go!!!
I am just being cheap Nico! :-)
I am sure the side by side historical connection is lovely to look at especially as both dials, hands and case sizes look almost similar!
Thank you!
So far three of you like it which simply means there will be many others who will like this piece and possibly bid for it. Ok, I have the weekend to rob a bank!!!
Someone just did Mike!!!
but it was on the Benu Power Reserve and I am actually thrilled that I have been out bided!! More funds to focus on the more important piece And if you are going to outbid me my friend, I can think of few better homes for the watch!!!
You have been ultra consistent there Mike!! :-)
Life in the forum would not be the same without your wit!! Yes, I know, it would be better!!!
He! He!
At least it will give me a chance to catch up with your 13,000 plus posts!!!!
Hi Sham, agree with you on the Atum, it's one of the stars. And it's the right size, many of the other references are simply too big. BUT...
...I saw the watch in person and I'm pretty sure the dial has not been well executed. There seems to be some markings on the dial which can be seen with the naked eye once you know they are there, and they are easily seen under a loupe. I'm no expert on e...
You can have the watch Mike! :-)
Too good to be true I guess or should I buy it then send it to Kari Voutilainen to get the enamelling done correctly since he has a dial factory!!! On the other hand, the watch will come with a guarantee so I will ask Moritz Grossmann on Monday if this co...
That's what I thought but wasn't certain.
I'm hoping I am wrong about this however and that there was some lighting trickery happening or that the mark was on the crystal and not the dial. I did look close, and I did have the MG rep look at it too, we both thought it was on the dial but I don't b...
I am praying you are wrong Jay
because that watch looks so,so good. But more importantly, I need to confirm with Moritz Grossmann that the international warranty will cover a faulty dial too.
OMG!!!
Thank you so much Jay for highlighting this. This is most disconcerting especially as Moritz Grossmann's dials are normally spot on. I am not sure what went wrong in the quality control here and if the error can be corrected as we all know how difficult i...
Thank you very much Jay!
I aim to pose the question to Christie's and more importantly Moritz Grossmann before the auction closes. Can you remember the name of the MG representative who noticed the flaw too?
I don't recall his name but he was there last Friday evening Nov 30th (he was the only one manning the MG watches, as they were in a case of their own).
I'm pretty sure he said he was based locally in Germany as opposed to being a US based rep. Shouldn't be hard to figure out whom it was. Again, crossing my fingers that I am mistaken and if so apologies for the fire drill! I did look at the photos posted ...
Thanks again Jay for all your input
You could be saving me a lot of money here and it is not often that I would buy a watch without actually seeing it but I thought as it is brand new, it should be perfect! Too presumptious!!
Hi Jay!
I have spoken to Sandra Behrens, Director of Communication at Moritz Grossmann, who has confirmed that the watch and the dial should be in perfect condition. The watch will be covered with a warranty as it is new. A bit of mind so I now have to try to obt...
Luck is not on my side Jay
I have been out bided but I shall plan something before the auction closes tomorrow!
It wasn't me.
Oh, wait. Sorry. I'm not posting anymore. Because of you. Ignore this post.
This strategy...appears they are following what the success of the Swiss power house 🏡
Creating value 😬👏🏻, nice move 👍🏻
I am curious though
how many will remain unsold because they have three tourbillons on offer with no bids and they have had to lower the reserves of these to USD40k which is tremendous value.
I think not enough people have been made aware of this auction
Yes, Hodinkee made me aware of it and Monochrome Watches had a write up yesterday but I know many ADs who are unaware of this (and when they did find out, they were not overly pleased!). I think the colour combinations on some of the dials on offer are qu...
I hope Jay is wrong about the dial
and I hope you can land this watch. But it is telling about this brand that starting bids for their tourbillons are at $40,000. That is way too low-and still no one is bidding. I fear MG is not long for this world. A shame because their movement quality i...
I share similar sentiments!
I think Christine should quit producing all these colourful dials and stick to good old school traditional and classic dials. The movement is great but the dials and case need greater attention. This is why we are all swooning over this 37mm Atum with the...
Are you referring to the first watch or the last one?!
The last one by the way is not an enamel dial! The first one is great of course but please read Jay's comments who has had the benefit of examining the dial.
The Tefnut 36, me want!!!!!
It was love at first sight for me when I saw that Tefnut 36, it had everything I ever wanted in a watch. Beautiful hand carved dial, jeweled crown, and an amazing movement. I hope that you get that one! It will be super unique and no body on the block wil...
Thank you Spencer!!
Finally someone who shares my taste in that 36mm Tefnut. It is currently my first choice and hope I have some good news to share on Tuesday. I have been out bided on 3 watches which is superb so that I can focus on the main two that I am keen on. You have...
Thank you!
I saw that the watch was sold, pls let me know if you were the one that bought and if so, please post lots of pics!!!! It seemed to be bid a bit lower than the high expected value and in my opinion, is a bargain, relatively speaking :p
Thank you Spencer!! :-)
Yes I did get it!!!! The price was lower than I expected but please read through a reply from the person I out bid. I was lucky.
That is amazing!!!
Major congratulations! That is an amazing and beautiful piece, I am super jelly :p Can you please let me know where I can read that reply from the person you outbid? Thank you
Thank you Spencer!! :-)
Please refer to Jiggerly-Cool's replies in the post. Thanks to him, I won the bid!!
Thank you, will do :)
Have a wonderful Christmas with your new watch and please take some pics!!!
You have a wonderful Christmas too Spencer!
I am delaying the arrival of the watch until the end of January but will definitely post some photos when I receive it. Or should I say 'when I receive them'!!
Idea of the year 2017
In her opinion, it was the best idea of the year. OK it should be an advent calendar and was offered in 2017 for 1 million. Unfortunately, nobody has bought this calender. Luxury goods should be offered in a suitable way. Nici
Result of the Auction!!!
After establishing from Christie's that the dial was in perfect condition (it was examined with a loupe) and from Sandra Behrens, the Director of Communications at Moritz Grossmann, that the pocket watch would come with a one year warranty while the wrist...
Thank you so,so much Mike!
Your support, encouragement, words of wisdom and your offer to assist me to get further information on the watch will always be appreciated. My first and probably my last ever piece unique!!!
As you can guess...
I am now eagerly waiting for the opportunity to not only see this beauty, touch it, try it but also make a proper photo shooting session of it. OMG I am so impatient... This one will not be watch of the week but watch of the year...
Mike, I can feel your excitement
and I am still in shock especially after reading the post below from the purist who I out bided. I was plain lucky and I am grateful for that. I will bring both the pocket watch and the wrist watch with me when we meet next so that you can take all those ...
If I was still posting I would congratulate you.
But as you know, and because of you, I don't post anymore.
He! He!
Thanks Mike!! I will never be in the same league as you are when it comes to watch collecting but today is a small personal victory for me
Again a HUGE Congrats my friend .
This watch is meant for you 🙏🏻🤗. So happy for you .Hope you will get it when possible . And looking forward to see your posts then 😉.
Thank you very much my friend!
It is 6.12am in Kuala Lumpur and I am still unable to sleep due to the excitement!!
Poor photos!
of a great pair!!! The detailing on the pocket watch is remarkable while the fine hands on the wrist watch is quite astonishing! ...
Amazing pair my friend . Again huge congrats .
The details on the pocket watch are indeed stunning . I have a soft spot for engraved cases. .👌🏻😘. The wrist watch looks so clean yet so classic too . Looking forward to see more pics soon 🤗
Thank you my friend!
I love comparing the Moritz Grossmann against my Lang & Heyne Friedrich III. Not sure which finishing is better The Calibre 102.1 in the Atum 37 Standard issue hand engraved balance cock Just wow! I think that is a three fifth German plate looking at ...
You are such a diplomat!
And this is one of the main reasons why I think you are a top class guy, my friend!!
Congrats again!
Similair to my Tefnut, I think the enamel dial and well-finished hands on yours again makes for one of the most attractive and balanced dress watch designs I've seen!
I have to humbly agree with you!
I took it to the local Moritz Grossmann AD and he just shook his head in amazement saying that it was better than anything in their current collection. I know he was being nice but there was a bit of truth is what he said. I have some expensive Pateks in ...
Beautiful pair
Wow, congratulations. Think you did quite well! Sorry I missed the end of the auction, some people did very well. Honestly, I love the creativity in the entire lot. I think the challenge bidders would have with some of these pieces was sartorial. I absolu...
Thank you very much!!
Yes I agree, the publicity on the auction was relatively poor and on hindsight, I think Moritz Grossmann would have done much better if it decided to sell the watches directly itself. Most were piece uniques and there are many collectors out there who wou...
congratulations from the guy you outbid
wanted to send you a pm but seems i can't send any, hence this reply. (i'm a lurker who almost never posts, so greetings to all and sundry.) i wanted that set, too, including (especially?) the pocket watch, and had every intention of giving you a run for ...
Thank you very much!!!
Firstly thank you very much for writing to me. Secondly thank you so much for allowing me to win the bid and own this piece unique! I really mean that. I have to tell you this. The maximum I would have bidded on this piece would have been 20k USD. If you ...
I don’t know why you could not send a pm to sham...
...but whatever the reason that gives us the opportunity to read your above message. Just as you said we are not investors but passionate collectors and when I read your post I can add that your acting at the auction is the one of a true gentleman. Moreov...
Mike, I have sent a PM to our new friend
I now know that me obtaining this watch is pure fate and lots of luck. I know by posting news of the auction on this site, I had risked ending up with nothing but as I had always mentioned, if a watch was meant to be mine, it will be. I also felt that thi...
thank you for your very gracious welcome, mike h
as a longtime lurker i can see that this is a great place to form like-minded friendships, but i supposei'm the shy & retiring type (wish i had enough to retire to a life of horological collection and admiration, but that's another topic). have to say, i ...
Hello my friend
if you right click on the emblem next to the person's name who has replied a post, you will be given a choice of viewing his other posts or sending a PM.
I was closely following quite some lots of those MGs in this auction.
The set you got is actually at very very reasonable price. I regret I didn’t go after this one if I knew the price can be so reachable. So huge congratulations!! Btw, I secured another two
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