BLembkey
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JLC Moonphase
I have to admit that I am not an expert in JLC watches, My expertise is in Rolex and
Patek watches. I was attracted to this watch because of its uncommon beauty. I have to
agree, there are no similar references to find on the internet, no books to consult with similar examples.
All of you who responded seem to think this watch is probably a fake, but then if it is (which I am not 100% convinced) then
why was it produced at all? This watch was most likely produced during a time when complicated watches were not highly
sought after? If an artisan produced this fake, then why, was it produced during a time when there wasn't a large
financial reward for doing so? Could it be possible that this was a prototype produced by
Jaeger, Longines-Wittanauer, or possibly Vacheron, all of whom had ownership or joint
ventures with Jaeger during the 1950's to 1980's? I am not the expert in Jaeger watches, but it seems
to me that they didn't have the same type of quality and control systems that Rolex and Patek
had during the same time period. Is it possible that Jaeger in Switzerland may not have
been in complete control, or have complete knowledge of what their US counterparts were
doing? Maybe I am being naive, but despite the overwhelming responses, and overwhelming
lack of supporting evidence for this being a authentic watch, there, in my mind is still a slight
glimmer of hope that this is something other than a fake. For now, I accept your conclusions,
and I will enjoy wearing the watch.
I appreciate all the responses, and appreciate this forum.
Best regards,
Bob Lembkey
JLC Triple Date Moonphase Chronograph
I recently acquired this JLC Triple Date Moonphase Chronograph with 18K screwback case with Valjoux 88 movement. The individual I purchased the watch from had it authenticated at JLC Japan. I sent the watch to JLC in Ft. Worth, they felt it was authentic....
JLC Le Sentier didn't accept to service it, because it is not authentic.
I feel sorry for you. JLC never made this kind of Watch. Some pop up, here and there, but they are not authentic. JLC refuse to service watches which are not authentic. best, nicolas
Not even a faked watch...
it's an artisian interpretation of something that never existed! Produced and thrown into market in fraudulent intention. Plain and simple. Most funny thing is JLC Japan and JLC Texas believed it to be authentic. Muahahaha. Reminds me why JLC paperwork ai...
I hope .....
you did not pay a hefty sum for a fake watch. And yet I marvel how u were convinced to buy a watch without 1) researching on it's existence 2) retail price (as price reference) By trying to identify the year and release edition(s), one would more or less ...
JLC Moonphase
I have to admit that I am not an expert in JLC watches, My expertise is in Rolex and Patek watches. I was attracted to this watch because of its uncommon beauty. I have to agree, there are no similar references to find on the internet, no books to consult...
If you want to believe, that is your right. There are zero chances that your watch is
Authentic. Best, Nicolas
ah yes ahmmm, sure!
Well, not sure if being co-author of the only available vintage JLC book counts, but these beasts have been judged on another forum for ages now. No catalog entry anywhere, no pricelist mentioning and beside the really funny faking errors I won't tell sin...
If my memory serves me right ...
... these watches were not only discussed in extenso on another forum, but a notorious vendor participated in one of the threads, pretending to be a collector of these and not to know their provenance. He knows for sure that they are Frankenwatches since ...
LeCoultre Moonphase
Christian, Could you please direct me to the site where the discussion of this watch took place? Thanks, Bob Lembkey
You got PM...
...since due to forum rules linking to an additional forum is not allowed, not even for educational purposes. ;) I.
This watch was originally a Valjoux-88 based chronograph made for Tourneau
It is a (nice) Tourneau TDM chrongraph that have been frankened with a repainted dial and somewhat incoherent blued leaf hands, with a re-engraved chronograph bridge. I would very much be a buyer for this watch in its unaltered condition, as it is all in ...
Tourneau Chronograph
Sir, Do you have a photo of the case back? Just curious to see if it is similar to the one on the JLC. Also, the bezel on the JLC appears to be wider, crown larger, hands obviously different, pushers for the day and moon phase don't seem to protrude as fa...