Jaeger-LeCoultre

I recently acquired this JLC Triple Date Moonphase Chronograph with 18K  screwback case with Valjoux 88 movement.  The individual I purchased the watch from had it authenticated at JLC Japan.  I sent the watch to JLC in Ft. Worth, they felt it was authentic.  They sent it on to JLC in Switzerland and they would not service the watch because it has a Valjoux 88 movement.  They didn't give any further explanation.  The watch has no serial number or model number on  the case.  I have noticed recently that Heuer made a special collectors edition " Golden Hours" that from what I can tell have no serial number or model number stamped on the watch.  I am wondering if anyone can help me identify this watch?  Thanks in advance for your help.  Bob Lembkey 

I feel sorry for you.

JLC never made this kind of Watch. Some pop up, here and there, but they are not authentic.

JLC refuse to service watches which are not authentic.

best,

nicolas

it's an artisian interpretation of something that never existed! Produced and thrown into market in fraudulent intention.
Plain and simple.

Most funny thing is JLC Japan and JLC Texas believed it to be authentic. Muahahaha.
Reminds me why JLC paperwork ain't worth the paper it is printed on, but at least the Swiss guys learned a little bit.

I.

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.....but again proves teh worth of buying the seller

you did not pay a hefty sum for a fake watch.
And yet I marvel how u were convinced to buy a watch without

1) researching on it's existence
2) retail price (as price reference)

By trying to identify the year and release edition(s), one would more or less be informed about the watch.

It's sad but there is no condemnation, just a very expensive lesson.

I have to admit that I am not an expert in JLC watches,  My expertise is in Rolex and

Authentic.

Best,

Nicolas

Well, not sure if being co-author of the only available vintage JLC book counts, but these beasts have been judged on another forum for ages now.
No catalog entry anywhere, no pricelist mentioning and beside the really funny faking errors I won't tell since there is no need to help these gangsters doing their homework.

Sorry for your lost, but there are two things to keep in mind:
- Buy the seller not the watch.
- Do your homework with due dilligence.

I.

... these watches were not only discussed in extenso on another forum, but a notorious vendor participated in one of the threads, pretending to be a collector of these and not to know their provenance. He knows for sure that they are Frankenwatches since then.

Christian,  Could you please direct me to the site where the discussion of this watch took place?

...since due to forum rules linking to an additional forum is not  allowed, not even for educational purposes.

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It is a (nice) Tourneau TDM chrongraph that have been frankened with a repainted dial and somewhat incoherent blued leaf hands, with a re-engraved chronograph bridge.

I would very much be a buyer for this watch in its unaltered condition, as it is all in all an attractive combination (and actually there was one very same selling on the Bay untill yesterday which I was following with great interest), but it would have to be 100% original.

I am sorry that you had to learn the hard way. Hope this was not a too expensive mistake

 

 

 

 

(the above sold for 2500$ at auction, to give you a reference point)

Sir,  Do you have a photo of the case back?  Just curious to see if it is similar to the