amanico
[JLC Moderator]
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Good point, Christian >>>
All, for sure, is not perfect, in the JLC watches. BUT:
1/ Can we say that JLC leaves the classic dress wach corner more and more unoccupied, while still exist in the "catalogue" the Master Ultra Thin, The Master Control, The 8 Days, perpetual calendar or not, and the more pricey Master Tourbillon? Not to speak about the Duo metre which will certinly be a hit...
2/ As for the finish on more regular models, yes, I agree with you, it can be better, but, another time, what should be the consequence on the final price?
But I agree.
Thanks for sharing your points, Christian!
Nicolas
How do you consider JLC >>>
Regarding the whole actual production of watches, how do you perceive the JLC Manufacture? As a PATEK, LANGE or VC concurrent? Some years before, I'd answer NO. But, for some years, let's say 4 years, the question has to be discussed. Let's face it in a c...
Some criticisms
It'd be no fun to agree with most of what you've said, and since I do, I'll complain about the things I don't like about JLC as a brand: *JLC excels at grand complexity in both movement (Gyro) and design (tryptich). They do not excel at simple elegance an...
A newbie's point of view
I am a newbie to the world of fine watches, having bought my first really nice watch very recently (a JLC of course) and entering the game with pretty much only one preconceived notion, namely that Patek is the best. So, I spent some time getting to know ...
You can please all of the people...
I have owned 11 JLC watches, and they still account for the largest % of the watches I currently own. I think they're wonderfully understated (Master Grande Taille), iconic (any Reverso or Atmos), amazing value (Master Perpetual), innovative (Duometre, Gy...
Just my newbie opinion
I have been deliberating this very question. Has JLC earned the reverence of such storied, innovative and classic manufacturers such as PP and Vacheron? I agree with Aaron in that they are missing the simple elegance in their collection that can be found ...
Nicolas, I understand that you are not asking for our ...
... opinion on design/aesthetics of JLCwatches, where JLC leaves the classic dress watch corner more and more unoccupied (let's hope for the Duometre series). Regarding the technical achievements in their high end watches they have to be ranked equal to t...
I rate JLC up there...
The top four manufactures are well known, and have established their reputations over a very long period of time. I believe that JLC has an equally good record, albeit they are regarded by many as on the second tier. One question to ask is what makes a ma...
Not top tier
In my opinion, JLC is not in the top tier of manufacturer's. Most people who make the argument that they should be in that top level say things like "they are a great bang for the buck" and "they have so much innovation." Those things are very true, but n...
It really depends on what criteria you use to determine 'top tier'....
The finish on a dial and movement are secondary to me to accuracy, and innovation in design and technology. I would rather have a Gyrotourbillon than a Patek. I would rather have a Koenigsegg than a Ferrari. It is all personal and subjective and based on ...
Exactly....
And for me they are not top tier. Don't get me wrong, I like the brand very much and own 2 JLC's, but they don't meet what I consider to be the level of a top tier maker. Even if the higher end pieces are finished well, to me what makes a company is how w...
I tend to agree with you, Moses >>>
It doesn't seem to be a movement ready to be cased, as I found 2 pics, one from the book, " La Grande Maison" which shows a finished movement that looks very well finished: And from another pic I had on my Hard Disk, ( Sorry I can't remeber who to credit,...
JLC top of the tree
I will put my opinion quite simply, If money was no object I would certainly own a Patek or two, and maybe a couple of VC's etc. However each of these and other brands only have two or three watches in their collection that blow my mind. The depth and qua...
Agree that in terms of innovation >>>
JLC is one of the very best, with ... Ulysse Nardin, IMHO.. Thanks for your input. Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2008-01-11 03:51:40
