Bill
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I can also confirm the JLC 8 days in the 190
I was closer to 80-90 turns than it was to 60 turns. It was a bit hard to judge either as I used the visual indicator rather than wind the watch the the crown came loose in my hand so this can account for some of the deviation. Both wound by me at the same pace.
So I guess turns as defined by me may be different that turns as defined by others but in any case I wound then both at the same rate.
Now I would not draw any conclusions from this exercise as to the quality of either movement. The extra day or two you get out of the pam 233 puts it closer to a 10 day movement.
I can say that winding the 190 and the silence of the movement is a real pleasure.
Best
Bill
Question: How many turns to full wind the 8 days PR
models: - JLC - P2002 - P2004 Same feeling? Thanks, Patrickh
about 200 turns
about 200 turns on the 2002 movement. about 50 turns on JLC. JLC movement is far superior. NO questions there
50 to 60 turns for the JLC movement on the 190/ 197/ 198/ 208.
I never touched a P 2002, so I can't tell you... Best, Nicolas
200 turns on a P.2002? Is this correct? Can a PAM233 owner verify this?
200 turns sounds way too much IMO. - AT
I can confirm
I just fully wound my 233 and yes it was actually 200 turns. I also know it lasts more than 8 days closer 9+. Will check and get back to you on the jlc 8 days movement. Bill
I would wait for reconfirmation
It may be I wind funny but I did wind both back to back. Bill
My experience with my 233
I seem to have a completely different experience with my 233 and I am sure it is probably because we all wind our watches a bit differently in terms of full turns, half turns, etc. Anyway, the last two times I wound my PAM 233, my results were as follows:...
The qualifier in my case is simply
The comparison of the 233 and the 190 wound by me one after the other so the number or turns can easily vary from one user to the other but in my case same person yeilding a result that was easily double the turns regardless of whether it was 100 full pro...
Thanks Bill...
that completely makes sense. I actually just called my brother who has a 233 as well. He said he usually winds his 233 approximately 180 or so times. So, I guess it really is nearer your results. I am curious now, I can't wait until this runs down in the ...
I can also confirm the JLC 8 days in the 190
I was closer to 80-90 turns than it was to 60 turns. It was a bit hard to judge either as I used the visual indicator rather than wind the watch the the crown came loose in my hand so this can account for some of the deviation. Both wound by me at the sam...
The 190 movement also has an autonmy of 10 days, Bill
Mine was around 9 Days, and and 15 hours! Best, Nicolas
I never paid attention to that detail. Nice to know
I just heard this on the Pam 233. I alos happy with the JLC Master 8 days so with a few minutes of winding I am set ffor the whole month LOL. Bill
Question about the P2002/7 in the 339
I own a 190. Because of the slipping flange ("bride glissante" in french) of the JLC 877 caliber, you can endless wind the watch. That's why the power reserve indicator at the back is very helpful to know whether the watch is fully winded or not. I wanted...
Can any P.200X owners answer this question?
When you manually wind the watch, does the crown stop when fully wound? (this is what I would guess) Or can you keep winding it like the JLC 877 caliber domingo states in the above post? Cheers, Anthony
That was not the anwser I was expecting.
Thank you for your answer. In consequence of this, can anyone tell how will I know that my 339 is fully wound ? Nicolas
I am not positive, but I think...
as MW mentioned the crown on the 233 does not stop, however with the power reserve indicator you can tell when the watch is fully wound. Also, the 233 emits a faint clicking sound letting you know that the watch is fully wound as well. I would assume that...
To add some excitement here - IWC Big Pilot 8 days
I just I figured I should check one more for the mix. And the results. With my turns i was just over 160 for the big Pilot. So it would appear that the 233 and the Big Pilot are pretty close in comparison to the JLC. Hope this sheds some light. Bill
Just gave my 190 the full wind.
I counted 67 turns. And I enjoyed every turn of the crown too.
And for the 8 days angelus? Someone could give an answer?
Thanks for your input. I am still waiting the stop of my 190 to participate. Cheers, Patrickh
I need another week for mine to wind down
I think it'll be less than 100 turns for me (my turns are full turns) but we'll see in a week. - AT
between 80 and 100 turns for my PAM268
I bought my first PAM two weeks ago: a Radiomir 8 Days Power Reserve, aka PAM268. This PAM has a P2002/3 manufacture caliber. Mine is numbered 226/400, L serie. My watch needs between 80 and 100 turns to be fully wound. So I'm far from previous results (a...
Thanks Bertrand and congratulations for your new baby
I suppose you made FULL turns to wind your 268. Maybe some made half turn and then count 2 times more as it is easier to wind the calibre on a Radiomir than a Luminor due to the crown protection. Best, Patrickh