Officine Panerai

We don't have many opportunities to see real vintage Radiomirs. It could be the moment to see all of them, and they are not so many. I would like to get as possible pictures of this Radiomirs ( Cali or not ) to stick this post as a reference. Of course it...  

to know what a vintage Pam looks like ;P So I will just camp here to find out and learn .... :D Great Idea btw !

Since the PAMs came since 1997, only. :) Best, my friend, and have fun! Nicolas

Love this dial...wouldn't trade this for anything (well, maybe a 6154...) ...  

I blurred the serial...sorry, no choice in this day and age.. ...  

Do you feel comfortable to share its story with us? Best, Nicolas

I need to take new pics of my PAM21. Getting tired of these old pics! Cheers, Anthony ...  

This one is to me as best as it possibly can be. A PAM 21 SS version :-) The 3646 Xa Flot. M.A.S. 01 (Admiral Ernesto Notari - Museo Tecnico Navale di la Spezia) ...  

THE mighty 3646 Xa MAS! Aaaach So! Fantastic to see it on line. A true reference. The one of the very rare one I would happily consider purchasing form the Good Museum! :) Best, Nicolas

...most likely one of only a few post-vintage Radiomirs I'd die to own ;)

What is your concern with the Cali dial? Many Cali 3646 did NOT have Rolex signed movements or casebacks, but cal 618 nonetheless... unless I misunderstood you! Looks correct to me :)

I my little investigations and researches at Panerai and at the Marina Militare, it resulted that none of 3646 have unmarked dial or unmarked movements at least and specially those pieces destined and delivered to Panerai or the Marina Militare. Rolex ver... 

known in that configuration, California dial and unmarked caseback. Nothing more in this statement than what it is. Cheers my friend, Asi

So we are left to rely on what information we can gather from the pieces known... I would be concerned if there was only 1 Cali 3646 with this configuration, but as Asi states, there are 10 pieces to date that are "sterile".... In my eyes, this Cali dial ... 

Obviously, I am not about to state them here. Cheers, Asi

You started in saying many to now a possible 10... Anyway all I say is I have still to find some backings for those unmarked pieces. For example in my book I doubted the ever use of the Panerai 2533 by the marina militare, whom when I asked them (1998) ne... 

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Here's my contribution - sorry for the quality :-( Cheers, Asi ...  

Can you explain why there is such a difference betweengs the Xmas engravings of the number 1, and yours Xa Mas Nr 40? Obvioulsy not the same. I am always scared about those pieces. LOL! Best, Nicolas

My watch is similar to five others I know, all type C (amber color indices, same movement and caseback) dated to 1942-3. One of these watches was belonging to the original diver and we know this engraving was already present in the 1960's. So, we can conc... 

For sure correct until 1945 (wrong side of the fence,,,) but I would presume it is in 'honor' of more than anything else. Maybe an initiative of a unit or a few divers. My watch has been like this since the end of the 80's at least (documented) and since ... 

Post 1943 the Xa Mas is isolated for 2 years, meaning it is no longer then considered Italian or residing within an Italian governed region, therefore no way would have Panerai been able to supply 40,50 and whatever amount of watches to the 'enemies'. And... 

Maybe Nov. 20? I know it's the wrong forum.... ;-) Asi

Since the debate has started here, it would be nteresting to read the developments of this interesting, passiionating discussion. It is not often that we have the chance to read something interesting when it comes to Panerai History. Many statements, and ... 

But it is of course up to you, guys, to share or to confidentially keep it for you.... Best, Nicolas

You want to walk with us? Learn to stand up. You want to run? Learn to walk. We are always here. Asi

More like 'truths',,,,, Lets not be naive, we cannot educate or learn everything so easy on this board. Every day another piece of this large puzzle comes together. Everyone is invited of course, we even set the meeting point in your town,what more do you... 

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Can't wait to taste one of your Grand Cru's,,,, Asi

The 2 photos below are absolutely not mine. (Photos are I think from Volker WIEGMANN ) NB: If you ever see this watch anywhere, please contact Volker WIEGMANN ...  

That reflects the very best of our community. I wish it was always in this spirit! Asi

I thought that with our today’s communication abilities they would resurface, sooner or later. One of the pieces is missing since 2004, it is still missing! Sadly so it will probably by much later...

But those are some very good pieces mon ami! Thanks for sharing! Grazie mille Stephen

First up is the 6152/1 with Radiomir dial..... Brevet engraving.... Serial.... Caseback.... Dust cover..... Movement... I tried to capture the Cortebert symbol under the balance wheel..... Next up is the 3646 Type D (Type D according to Volker and ...  

"First up is the 6152/1 with Radiomir dial...." ...one of the rarest combos? R E S P E C T ! ! ! :) Next you'll be posting a 3646/Angelus/Radiomir... ;) So who's bringing the 2533 to this party... :D

... going through my new copy of Ralf & Volker's References ;) You guys rock, keep it comin' please! :D

the amazing photography of Luciano. One of these watches is mine, YES, looks beter in the pic then in reality,,,, ;-) Cheers, Asi ...  

So photos like that it is so easy to convince again those that opted out. Nico are you jumping in or what? LOL

You never know, next time it could be you.

...I ordered their book(s) - Lu told me ~December, I hope they manage it before Xmas :)