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A difficult question indeed. I think the answer depends on the current stable. Are we starting from zero? From our own personal collections?
If the latter, the choice for me is easy. The 5170P. Stunning yet classic design. Diamond markers are no longer a negative having grown accustomed to them on the 5976. So all in, I quite like the dedicated complication and beautiful finishing
Clash of blue PP chronographs
Which one would you choose? Personally, I'm torn: they are all big hitters. Even though I already own a 5960a, I would not rule out a 5960P as my second Patek. For the 5170P: yes I think I can live with the diamonds. I think it could become the icon out o...
In practical terms 5960 and 5905 share the same movement
and because you already have 5960/1A, I would rule those out. I like 5270 but I often think that 5170 plus e.g. 5140 cost the same as 5270 and thus I would go for two separate watches. Perpetual calendar is at it's best with automatic movement and the chr...
Wow!
Thanks for very useful and personal feedback, Kari!! I would have sworn you would say 5960 or 5905 no matter what context. Your suggestion strikes a perfect balance between unity and diversification in a collection. Food for thought, indeed. I think you m...
You do not have a huge amount of Pated. Yet...
If you could afford 5270, why not then 5327 (or 5140) plus 5170? That would cost roughly the same as 5270 and give you an iconic perpetual with fantastic 240Q movement plus one of the finest simple chronographs available. And then you would still have you...
5170P or
5270P without the "chin". I fully agree with Kari's comments. - 5170P looks incredible in real and I really think it will be a Winner in following years to come. - 5270P third version is really a reference model for many Patek lovers in the lineage of vin...
The 5170P every day :-)
I like the dial of the 5270 but am not too keen on the earlier version's infamous double chin. it is also too large as are the others and for me personally size is important! . To be honest even the 5170P is a bit large which is why I have not proceeded w...
Sham!
A side point: I have looked at a number of your wrist shots, and I cannot see that it could be too big for you? I think you could pull it perfectly (or all of your wrist shots are of 35mm cases!) Thomas
Thanks Thomas!
This was a shot taken of the 5170P at Basel. The lugs stick out a little! It may not bother most purists but I am a quite particular. So I am hoping that my wrist grows somehow!! And yes, I have been posting most of my wrist shots of watches of a smaller ...
You must be uber particular!
In my honest opinion it fits perfectly. The lugs does not hang over at all. And pictures always make watches look bigger than they really are. Of course I respect your opinion don't get me wrong, but I dear you to find one single person on this forum that...
Guilty as charged! :-)
I was actually with a fellow purist at Basel and even he agreed that this 5136G fitted my wrist perfectly compared to the 5170P. I think the angle of the shot fails to show the lugs on the 5170P which do not curve sufficiently in my opinion and therefore ...
Just to satisfy my curiosity
I dropped by at a Patek AD yesterday to try on a 5170G and the manageress did agree with me that as much as the 5170G was her personal favouriite, the lugs did hang over sufficiently to deem the watch too large for me. This was more apparent as I tried on...
Let's make the long story short...
5170 P for all the reasons already mentioned... I fully agree with Kari's comments even if I'm not sure I would have been able to phrase it as well : while reading it I was thinking he had read in my mind ! 😉 Let us know the outcome with some pocs... Good...
Tough choice!
Have seen all in the metal. 5170P is beautiful, but I don't fancy the diamonds. 5270G-019 would be a very strong contender, but a little too bland for me in a blue dial. I would wear a blue dial timepiece casually, so the 5905P works better for me. Has us...
5270G
The chin was made in very few numbers, at a short duration. Maybe a collectible one in the future.
All great choices
But I would go with the 5170p. I am generally not a fan of diamond markers but having seen the watch in person I think that they are fairly subtle.
5270P?
Well it be black dial you think? For some reasons my wife resents black straps, and I don't know what else to pair black dials with. Thomas
Maybe in 10 years..
The chin will be the reason why we love this reference, and it will be sought after? Let's remember Jonrus said it first 😀 Let's hold him to him in 2027 😀
A difficult question indeed. I think the answer depends on the current stable. Are we starting from zero? From our own personal collections?
If the latter, the choice for me is easy. The 5170P. Stunning yet classic design. Diamond markers are no longer a negative having grown accustomed to them on the 5976. So all in, I quite like the dedicated complication and beautiful finishing
A lot of love for the 5170P!
I'm almost a little surprised given the negative burst against the diamonds to begin with. My AD has promised me that I'm number 1 in line for it. Note it's a matter of convincing bankers and wife In the opposite order Thomas
The blue dials came back but I think as a classical colour
next to the silver and black dials. Hence, I think we'll continue to see them in the future. As always, there are also very different ways for Patek to make the pattern of a dial, aside of the colour matter. I like also the grainy in the 5524 or 5960G. It...
Good considerations as usual, Mark!
One question about the 5170P: The graded fume dial. Are there any other examples of this in Patek history? I cannot think of one, but my historical knowledge is very limited. Thomas
Indeed, they seem to be rare
There are some changes with the sunburst dial decoration that allow to play with the light but these dials show the same colour on their whole surface, in a homogeneous way. In fact, I don't remember a dial looking like the 5170P either. A very good choic...