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Agreed that the world is not fair for everything
but if it is possible to make thing fairer which I believe there is as practised in the UK market, then, this should be adopted as a unified policy by Patek worldwide. There is always be some degree of unfairness but the whole objective is to minimise it. We should not be complacent and just accept unfairness when there is a way of improving things. In Malaysia for example, when the ceramic bezel steel daytona was released two years ago, ADs and boutiques were selling the watch at 45% above list. This was arguably unfair but still they managed to sell the watches. I feel if Rolex was more stringent with its ADs adopting the RRP, this practice would not be allowed. In Europe, it would be a huge crime for an AD to sell a Daytona about the RRP. Unfairness persists because the brands are failing to adopt a common policy which they are able to if they want to.
2017 Gifts for the family
I got 2 5077 for my wife and daughter. Also Get 2 5131 for myself. It is a Chanllenge and happy year to get these 4 watches. How do you think about the gifts? Do you like them and why? I love all watches even I am a man. 5077 enamel just so beautiful. I e...
What a family!
Very beautiful dials for the entire family. I have a 2 year old daughter... you have given me a good idea. Enjoy!
Absolutely stunning enamel pieces ! You are THE...
ultimate enamel collecting family ! Enjoy them often !
Different strap for 5131R
I try to put different strap color for my 5131R. At the end I like these colors. ...
Beautiful collection !! I have also started buying watches for my daughters, for my oldest (5 years) i have got this. She will get it when she’s old enough 😏
The two youngest I’m waiting for the right watches ...
Great father.
Here has many good fathers. I love 7175R too. My daughter has this gift in the future too. She is 16 and I will wait until she graduates from university. ...
Good father too
Picture shows you have very young daughter. Sometimes, gift doesn't has be very expensive. The important is to show your love and how much you care for your family. My daughter is wearing Casio right now. She is very happy and enjoy it.
Congrats watch-fan on a superb rare handcracft collection for the entire family!!:-) I could only get to today's posts now, but this is a huge one!! :-)
Hope your family will enjoy these exclusive and great pieces! My only two Patek rare handcrafts so far (a 5131 and the 5089G-020) say hi! ...
Love your collection.
5089G is my favorite watch, especially sailboat. Unfortunately, My AD did not have the watch. Envy you. Enjoy it. I will wear 5089G sailboat all the time if I have it. Forgive my poor English. Not quite understand what you mean. "I could only get to today...
Thanks a lot watch-fan, I appreciate it. I just recently applied for one of this year's newly released enamel pieces (a 5177 with Italian theme on the dial), now I'm keeping my fingers crossed! :-)
PS: No problem on the English --- I just meant that I noticed this post which was made several hours ago quite late, as I've been working all day and didn't have a second to check this site... Luckily I did tonight! Cheers.
We have same hobby.
I real love PP rare handcraft watches. They are not just hard to get, but they are so beautiful to own, enjoy and have lots of fun with the watches. I learn how to take good pictures of the pretty watches. Just love them. Congratulation on your nice colle...
Thanks a lot, I'm actually Italian (though I live in the US during the academic year), so given the themes of these latest 5177 dials, I'm hoping more than ever to be selected for a rare handcraft piece this year!:-)
I truly love this type of art on a watch, so I'm slowly trying to build my small Patek collection with this theme.. Best wishes.
Different culture loves different art.
PP tries to have different art watch for different culture. I believe 5177 Italian style means more meaning to you than me. Good luck for your application.
You must be a very special collector
to be allocated all these pieces. In the UK, no one collector is allowed to be allocated more than one 5131 to be fair to all customers. I love the 5077 with the black dial. Absolutely gorgeous!!! Enjoy your sublime collection!!
Interesting question
As I understand, some big collectors has two set of 5131 all models. Look at this picture from Google search. The owner has a set of 4 5077 and double sealed. Some collectors keep contribute a lot every year in order to get more rare watches they like. Co...
I fully understand
I am just saying that in the UK due to the high demand of the 5131, no collector will be allocated more than one piece even if he spends a lot on Pateks. You are fortunate that your AD allocated two watches to you. In the UK, being a top customer does not...
Love 5131.
You are right. Every 5131 is unique ,elegant and beautiful. Every collector love 5131.
Each one is different
which makes these watches very special. Tell me, do you find the 5131P heavy to wear? I wish they had done the watch with a leather strap. Cheaper, lighter and more wearable!!!
I guess PP wants P version a little different from other 5131.
I used to the platinum bracelet weight. I love it because I was looking a PP watch that I can wear it all year. The strap is not suit for hot weather because of sweating. I understand many collectors prefer strap and they have the same idea of yours. You ...
Ha! Ha!
I live in Malaysia and it is extremely hot here but I guess I am just so used to wearing watches with leather straps. I bought a Daytona yesterday and am even contemplating on putting a rubber strap on it as I am just not used to wearing a bracelet. The 5...
Agree with you.
I think PP wants to make more money on P. I am a guy like to pay for it because I real love P with both bracelet and leather strap.
And that is what that matters most!
I have only one P watch and it has been ordered and paid for and should arrive in November. And thank god it is light!!! The Cartier tank cintree limited to 100 pieces ...
I think Wanfu is a UK customer...although
I agree with you on Rhone comment. I had to make a choice...decline the R for the P or take the R and no P!!
I am a 100% sure that
Rhone Products would not allocate a 5131 to the same person twice. I am pretty close to the Directors there and they have confirmed that. However, of course a collector may get as many 5131s as he wishes from other sources which is always a possibility.
I like to keep it as my privacy.
Some people use my name to bother my AD. Some people expect walk in to AD and get a nice piece right away. I have to do lots of contribution before I can get one nice piece.
I respect that...was just trying to establish whether both the 5131R and 5131P
We're from a UK source considering Sham1 comment....I think there is a 5131G and 5575G in your cupboard as well....cheers
Salon VIP CAN Have 5131R and 5131P,
But it is almost impossible to get both R and P from same AD unless you are a big collector. As what I heard, Some collectors got many 5131 from some AD in Asia.
Just to clarify
The Salons are owned directly by Patek and might have a different policy from say Rhone Products who manage all the UK ADs. Also, I have little doubt that ADs in Asia have been allocating 5131s to the same customers I can think of at least one purist with...
I’m sure there are always exception to the rule
You can get more than one 5131 from Rhône, just a matter of how important you are to them.
That would normally be true and sounds pretty logical
but I am almost 100% sure they adopt a strict policy when it comes to the allocation of the 5131 ie no exceptions to the rule but hey, you can always argue otherwise if you wish.. Similarly, as in a post I wrote two years ago, Rhone Products will retain t...
Agree, it would have probably been more sensitive to set a uniform policy worldwide for such a popular model...
...or even better IMO, no policy at all anywhere (save of course that one's name be approved by Patek, and I would also be happy if the same person can't get the same metal twice). In any event, this seems to be a problem of the past for this model, since...
We all wait in anticipation for the 5231! :-)
Thanks for your views! I guess the question is should a customer who has been allocated either the J, G or R version of the 5131 also be allocated a P when there are so many genuine collectors out there who had missed out on all three metals.
I’m not arguing
Because I know collector have gotten more than one. Like I said, it’s just a matter of how important you are to them.
I see.
Understood and I shall bring this up with Rhone as I shall be meeting the directors in 2 weeks time.
Royalty is very very important to UK MD.
It is very very difficult to get 5131 in UK if you are foreign buyer unless you show you are very very loyal to your AD and MD.
By the way, what does MD stand for?
and I assume you meant 'loyalty'. In the UK, it is encouraged that you buy from the same AD and not multiple ADs to build a relationship and track record with them. I know as I have been doing this for the last decade.
Nothing is fair in this word.
I believe nothing is fair in the world. Different policy works in different country. There are only fewer 5131, not enough for every collector. I believe I have to work hard to get what I want. There is always someone in front of me if I want to get a thi...
Agreed that the world is not fair for everything
but if it is possible to make thing fairer which I believe there is as practised in the UK market, then, this should be adopted as a unified policy by Patek worldwide. There is always be some degree of unfairness but the whole objective is to minimise it....
R is discontinued
I love both and P. Both are very beautiful. It can't be wrong either choose R or P.
I love the 5077 with black dial too.
As a man, I love 5077 black dial more than red dial. My daughter and wife love both red and black dial. I guess my daughter love red more than black dial.
Both are lovely
and of course beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I like watches which are discreetly elegant and classy. Many of the 5077 range do not quite do it for me but your black dial watch is a sure winner.
Thank you for your opinion.
I am a guy only buy what I love. I look at 2017 rare handcrafts book. I think I am very lucky to have these two most beautiful watches. Agree with you. Every collector has different taste. There is no right and wrong answer. I took many pictures of both r...
You have the right approach
Never buy what you like, buy what you love!! Your wife and daughter are most blessed and I am glad they share your passion.
Glad you like pictures.
I spent many days to take photos because I am not pro photographer. I will not give up if I can't have a clear pictures.
I salute you!
I am useless at photography and do not have your patience (for photography!)
We all do
for the small pleasures in life. To bring a smile to a loved one or to ourselves is priceless!!
We all do :-)
for the small pleasures in life. To bring a smile to a loved one or to ourselves is priceless!!
What gifts does Jamie/ AD give for a 5131P
I know there is no discount but sure they throw in a golf bag or something?
Love the box and happy to see it
Filling up....I would just have to use it for pens!!!!
Lovely presents for yourself and the family...
Very happy for you. Lovely line up. The world timers are amazing. Of cos the enamel is amazing too. Would love more close up shots if possible!