foversta
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And fortunately Patek is not led by a MBA guy...
There are already too many in the watches industry... and how many really know what is a customer or a dealer?
Thierry Stern is not a MBA guy and he was trained at Patek in the workshops and in NY. And it is much better for the company to have this profile.
Fx
This message has been edited by foversta on 2015-07-13 14:11:52
Hands on review of the Patek Philippe 5905P
5905P. Rarely a Patek Philippe reference has had such suitable number. Because in many ways I consider the 5905 P as a mix between the 59 60 to which it succeeds and the 52 05 from which it found a part of its inspiration. It also demonstrates that Patek ...
Ahhh what a read :)
Thanks so much, such a great, comprehensive view of the 5905P! The 5960 in steel is one of my favorite modern Patek's so its a hard comparison for me ;) The lack of power reserve does kill me, BUT you are right I think in your assumptions as to Patek's me...
Wow!
Great watch AND a great review! Thank you ver much! Here are some more pics of the watch I took a while ago. Sorry for the bad quality. Here is a size comparison. It's big. Size comparison 5960/1A. Which I think to be honest is a better size. Sorry, not t...
Yes it looks big on your wrist but nothing shocking.
The same about the thickness due to the bezel shape. Thanks a lot for the picture with the 5205 and the 5905 together! Fx
Thanks Dylan!
Actually, I'm a guy who thinks that a power reserve is more useful with an automatic watch than with a handwind one. Because with the handwind one, you usually wind it every morning. Anyway, thanks for your comments! Fx
Superb Review
Fr. Xavier, Thank you for this superb and beautifully illustrated review. Reviews and photography like this are among the most endearing and valuable assets of PuristSPro. Park
Can ask for a better review.
Thanks for a great review,I did already put my name on the 5905P waiting list but I am leaning towards searching for the 5960P for the reasons you said actually. .More usable on day to day (less formal). .Has more character .Power reserve counter. I think...
Yes Ahmed, the final decision can only be made after the test...
and I'm sure that it will become obvious. Thanks! Fx
Thanks Foversta for an
excellent review. You made me nearly cry due to the fact that I bought 5960/1A and not 5905P. Best, Kari
Glad to read that I validated your choice. :-)
Anyway, it would have been a good choice in any case... Fx
What I think is that in real world
5960 is a Grand Complication: chronograph, annual calendar, power reserve and day-night indicator. The new version is a Complicated Watch because one complication has been removed. But why is 5960 "just" a Complicate Watch? It gave the people interested i...
I'm not sure about this.
Because the "middle" of Patek is actually already very high and you need to meet the expectations of the collectors who can't have access to the highly complicated watches... Fx
And fortunately Patek is not led by a MBA guy...
There are already too many in the watches industry... and how many really know what is a customer or a dealer? Thierry Stern is not a MBA guy and he was trained at Patek in the workshops and in NY. And it is much better for the company to have this profil...
MBA is not THAT bad...
I hold two MBAs and still I know something about my company's industry, at least the results suggest that. But seriously, book wisdom and wisdom gained from experience are two different things. However, it is possible to combine in a very positive way. B...
Great review. The lack of a second hand can be compensated by
The constantly running chrono hand of the automatic vertical clutch movement Thus is a great watch and I think will become a classic Julian
Thanks Julian.
Yes, I also spoke about the ability to make the chronograph run continuously... which is possible since we don't use the chronograph very often. At least, myself! Fx
Interesting article, Fx. More perfect, I don't know, but for me, the 5905...
Has much less charm than the 5960. The 5960 as really something, as you wrote. Monocounter, first in house auto chrono movement, and an original and refined look at the same time. The 5905 cannot compete, imo. Best, Nicolas
Thanks Nicolas for your input.
At least, Patek managed to achieve the mission: to offer a new watch totally different to the previous one! Then, when it comes to the comparison of the contents and interests of both, it is maybe a different story. Best regards. Fx
Considering the complications its understandable.
To be a thick watch. Still done in good taste and dimensions , my opinion. Thanks for the write up foversta. Cheers Geross
I want to like (love) this model but just can't...because of the fonts!
On the surface, it seems to have all the elements I find appealing. But the one thing that bothers me is the font that they use for the subdial. To me, the 5905 is a modern chronograph, the overall dial layout, the use of the modern subdial to keep the ru...
Another good remark, thanks Eric.
I didn't pay too many attention to the fonts and you raised a good point. Actually, I see these fonts differences as a way to create an additional aesthetic gap between the counter and the other data. But yes, it lacks consistency in a way. Fx
I wish Patek would redesign the rotor
I just find the rotor design boring and restrictive, and repetitive. This would have been an excellent opportunity to freshen this component of this movement Best Joe
It is an excellent remark Joe.
I also had it in my mind and clearly, there is no big differences when we observe the casebacks of several watches using the the similar movements, whatever they are complicated or not... I don't speak here about the micro-rotor movement obviosuly because...
A nice review Fx.
I've seen the watch for the first time not long ago but couldn't handle it and waiting to give my final opinion. However, there are many interesting evolutions on this new reference and I think it is better than the 5960 in several aspects. So, two very d...
Thanks Mark!
Yes, two distinct watches, it was the Patek objective and it is reached. Fx
phenomenal review and admit
my view on this 5905P has improved considerably. But with slight reservations for changing my mind once I have had the privilege to encounter on in the flesh, my pick still remains 5960P in any dial configuration over this newer reference. Main reasons be...
Thanks keks. Nothing can beat the actual test on the wrist!
I tend to prefer the bleu dial but maybe on a long run, the black dial is a safer choice. Thanks for your comments! Fx
No screw bacK
I really prefer the 5960 because of many details. The power reseve and the hour counter first. But also the folding clasp and the screwed back. Not only the function but also the looks of the patek screw back is muc much superior... Why do they put a pres...
Thanks for the review!
Sorry to revive an older thread, however I wanted to thank you for your review which in many ways helped me move forward with my recent purchase. The 5960P was my first Patek and will always hold a place in my heart. The new reference, IMHO provides meani...
Don't be sorry!
People sometimes miss threads like this one and it is nice to bump them up from time to time, especially when the watch has been recently unveiled. The 5905 and its 42mm fit very well your wrist and this proves that Patek was well inspired to include some...
Need to see actual watch but...
from the pics only and the 42mm diameter / 14mm thickness ( very un-Patek! ), it looks like an fat version of 5960P.
I had an opportunity to try the watch on Friday.
It is so nice that I could imagine having in my watch winder side-by-side with my 5960/1A. But the real question is black or blue. Blue looks stunning but it seems to be a fashion colour nowadays. What I heard from the AD is that most of the orders are fo...