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Be careful with the Cert

 

Obviously, it depends on the cost and model of the watch.  However, most collectors insist on Certificate of Origin for more expensive recent watches - 5050/ 5970/etc.  They would surely be miffed if there was no Certificate and would pay far less...un fact they would look for another seller.  I think the idea of white-out is equally bad.  The more you collect, the more you will learn the "rules" and what the cost is of not playing by the rules.

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Information on PP Certificate of Origin

 
By: watchmeout : September 3rd, 2007-23:33
I never sold my Patek before, until now to some extent I am thinking about it to fund more advanced pieces. My Pateks carry the Certificate of Origins completed with my name and home address. I feel rather uncomfortable to have my name and address shown o... 

Agree with your concerns

 
By: autowind : September 4th, 2007-06:08
I agree. Don't mind having my name on the certificate but don't want any other contact information floating around. Here are a couple of options: 1. Don't include the certificate in the deal. The certificate is desirable but not having one usually won't k... 

Thank you, autowind

 
By: watchmeout : September 4th, 2007-07:04
but how can one request a cert from the archive? Shall I contact my local PP representative? Thanks again for your info.

Be careful with the Cert

 
By: Rollie : September 4th, 2007-18:25
Obviously, it depends on the cost and model of the watch. However, most collectors insist on Certificate of Origin for more expensive recent watches - 5050/ 5970/etc. They would surely be miffed if there was no Certificate and would pay far less...un fact... 

Thanks. RKDANIEL

 
By: watchmeout : September 4th, 2007-18:38
Yes I heard that most collectors or the secondhand watch shop will pay less if you don't produce the certificate. So is there anyone here who happened to have your name and full address filled in the certificate and then sold the watch to others?

I don't see the problem

 
By: tlwood99 : September 4th, 2007-21:24
The buyer is going to know your name and address anyway, right? You will probably have a conversation or two to feel confortable about the transaction. And if and when the buyer re-sells, it will be to someone paying the money for a Patek, right? Frankly,... 

...and I agree with RKDaniel

 
By: tlwood99 : September 4th, 2007-21:27
I would not buy a PP without a Cert, and I would be at least reluctant to buy a PP with a Cert that has been altered in any way. If the seller acts so guarded and secretive, I would be uncomfortable and concerned that the seller is hiding something. Being... 

Sadly, it is a mistake today

 
By: watchlune : September 5th, 2007-16:36
to buy a Patek without a Certificate of Origin, unless it is truly a vintage piece, or one is prepared for the fact that some prospective buyers will not want it, thus limiting future sales prospects. What a shame that circumstances have led to this. The ... 

It is not a Patek mistake at all....

 
By: watchmeout : September 5th, 2007-18:31
Patek Philippe is producing orginal watch and of course they wish that their watches will be kept in generations not sold in the second hand market to make profit out of it. But if you are planning to sell your PP watch and you don't want your details to ...