Patek Philippe

With certificate or without ...

Well, ppfan, may i ask you this question, if you were to buy someones patek, will you mind if the watch is in someone else's name ? How often will you look at the certificate ?? i honestly think, having a certificate is more a peace of mind, not a deal breaker. It is an added plus to have a original certificate. Imagine if Patek did NOT make archives for vintage pieces, then what ? People will still buy the watches.

Might i suggest, that in the future, if you have to fill in your name and other info on your newly purchase watch, give them another address, a work address, your aunts address ... how bout your local post office address with a PO box number ?! Ha !

I personally dont agree Patek should require address to be on certificate, as your name and contact address is already filled in on another certificate to be sent to Geneva. But because of the second hand dealers buying and selling, this was imposed - silly in my opinion. Since, one way or the other, our purchase will be left to another generation, just not necessary ours.

Information on PP Certificate of Origin

By: watchmeout : September 3rd, 2007-23:33

I never sold my Patek before, until now to some extent I am thinking about it to fund more advanced pieces. My Pateks carry the Certificate of Origins completed with my name and home address. I feel rather uncomfortable to have my name and address shown o...

Agree with your concerns

By: autowind : September 4th, 2007-06:08

I agree. Don't mind having my name on the certificate but don't want any other contact information floating around. Here are a couple of options: 1. Don't include the certificate in the deal. The certificate is desirable but not having one usually won't k...

Thank you, autowind

By: watchmeout : September 4th, 2007-07:04

but how can one request a cert from the archive? Shall I contact my local PP representative? Thanks again for your info.

Obviously, it depends on the cost and model of the watch. However, most collectors insist on Certificate of Origin for more expensive recent watches - 5050/ 5970/etc. They would surely be miffed if there was no Certificate and would pay far less...un fact...

Thanks. RKDANIEL

By: watchmeout : September 4th, 2007-18:38

Yes I heard that most collectors or the secondhand watch shop will pay less if you don't produce the certificate. So is there anyone here who happened to have your name and full address filled in the certificate and then sold the watch to others?

I don't see the problem

By: tlwood99 : September 4th, 2007-21:24

The buyer is going to know your name and address anyway, right? You will probably have a conversation or two to feel confortable about the transaction. And if and when the buyer re-sells, it will be to someone paying the money for a Patek, right? Frankly,...

...and I agree with RKDaniel

By: tlwood99 : September 4th, 2007-21:27

I would not buy a PP without a Cert, and I would be at least reluctant to buy a PP with a Cert that has been altered in any way. If the seller acts so guarded and secretive, I would be uncomfortable and concerned that the seller is hiding something. Being...

No box or papers

By: tlwood99 : September 6th, 2007-14:11

Respectfully disagree

By: autowind : September 5th, 2007-06:08

With certificate or without ...

By: tic-toc : September 5th, 2007-02:29

Sadly, it is a mistake today

By: watchlune : September 5th, 2007-16:36

to buy a Patek without a Certificate of Origin, unless it is truly a vintage piece, or one is prepared for the fact that some prospective buyers will not want it, thus limiting future sales prospects. What a shame that circumstances have led to this. The ...

It is not a Patek mistake at all....

By: watchmeout : September 5th, 2007-18:31

Patek Philippe is producing orginal watch and of course they wish that their watches will be kept in generations not sold in the second hand market to make profit out of it. But if you are planning to sell your PP watch and you don't want your details to ...