Mark in Paris
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I don't think it will evolve that way.
Interesting thoughts to read Moritz.
First, thanks a lot for your nice comments, I appreciate them 
Concerning your reflection, I've been also asking myself what will be the place of such innovations in the future.
I guess it will remain housed in a very few watches.
It is, for now, quite expensive to craft (raw material is not as available as steel, needing specific tools and know-how etc...).
As you said, I think the brands will keep on being attached to more traditional materials.
They can keep these innovations for the more expensives pieces, showing their mastery in new technologies, the fact they remain a modern brand but they will still insist on saving their traditional DNA which is the vehicule of their legacy (history, collections, historical pieces, metiers d'art...) and hence their real asset.
It is nice to show that "we can" but they will remain, imho, keeping it an exception.
So, my feeling is that traditional materials have a long life expectency in front of them, hence, the movements as we know them today!
Cheers Moritz,
Mark
This message has been edited by Mark in Paris on 2015-04-22 08:08:33
Patek Philippe “Advanced Research” program - Sum up and 10 year review
Following the thread I posted regarding the 10 years of the first Advanced Research related watch, the 5250P ( ) I thought I could sum-up the overall chronology of these very special watches. The principle is that for each new Silinvar® part developed (S...
Thanks Mark or an outstanding post.
I had the pleasure being invited to the gala dinner of Singapore Maritime week: The Minister of Transport had a long and inspiring speech and I sat between two Japanese ship owners who spoke some funny language to me. It had some similarities with English...
Patek thought about everything...
Because, this is also what their watches are made for! They are indeed companion of every time of the day, when bored, being in a traffic jam, waiting for you train/plane/girlfriend etc... I imagine your pleasure, thank you for your warm comments and than...
It was a good exercise for me too!
as I needed a clearer view on what happened concerning that program. Thanks a lot CH', hope to see you soon. Cheers, Mark
You're welcome :)
It was useful for me too... Your wrist shot is very nice, you're a happy owner Jim: after the booklet, the watch! Wear it well please share more from time to time :) Cheers, Mark
understanding...
... is so important to really appreciate those pieces. I love the idea of using technology, new materials, and modern means to improve traditional movements that have been the same for around 200 years. Great post!
Perfectly true...
... it is so much part of the pleasure. I often heard about the Advanced Research program before and saw watches from time to time on forums but was quite lost. I realize I was missing something :) Thanks for the comments Fricks! Cheers, Mark
Great Article Mark, thanks
This clarifies a lot of the info out there I think my 5235 also has all these 3 updates" Julian
At the beginning it is a little long to understand how all these innovations are integrated
I needed to put this on paper to have a clearer view on these unique watches. And you're right, thanks for mentionning: the 5235 is indeed equipped with the Pulsomax (hence, the 3 first elements). I'll add this to my review Thank you for your words julian...
decade of Patek Advanced Research
Thanks for such an informative post on the last 10 years of Patek's Advanced Research. Regards, ED-209
The End is near: the End of traditional watchmaking
Hi Mark, many, many thanks for the summary and for a very enjoyable post about Patek's silicone endeavours. As you are mentioning it yourself in your section about the hair spring: these parts come out perfectly fitting, always. That means that these part...
I don't think it will evolve that way.
Interesting thoughts to read Moritz. First, thanks a lot for your nice comments, I appreciate them Concerning your reflection, I've been also asking myself what will be the place of such innovations in the future. I guess it will remain housed in a very f...
Maybe the material is too delicate for all parts
Your summary is showing that it has began at the end of a clockwork and not at the start. 60% of the energy of the main barrel spring is absorbed when it reaches the escapement and my feeling is that this material is not capable to cope with 100%. Maybe s...
Dear Count. I partly agree.
Thus, in a perfect world a lover of slim Patek perpetual should have 5140P + 5550P. Best, Kari
My dear Kari: you live in a perfect world
And there is no little bit of envy if I am saying it, just admiration. Hope you want to, I must say and not can, realize your next über-Patek(s). Regarding the issue of advanced research: let it be the mainstream one day if traditional watchmaking is stil...
Dear Count,
I will not get any "Über-Pateks". In May an ordinary one, same from Honolulu in July. I have on my "short list" a couple of watches I have informed Patek I want to get: like 40 Years Anniversary Nautilus, 5131P, 5170P & 5170-1A, 5078P with black ename...
I like your way of thinking
Hi Kari, I hope I don't disturb you while in the swimming pool. I have been recognizing myself in how you see your travel through Patek's collection. I also try to think about what I might "love" (and not only "like") today, and what might the future nove...
Mark I like your way of thinking!
Mark, I am very very happy with the Patek Philippe watches I have. I do not have even one I would give away or trade. All of my watches are serving a purpose. I wanted to get a Calatrava that fits to my taste. It is not a common or popular watch but it fi...
Dear Kari I could not add or leave any words from your purpose
I am definitly a Patek man too wear all your beauties, rare or not in the best of health
This is a nice journey...
and it is very nice reading. There are so many aspects of Patek watches that talk to watch collectors and that make them be worth making the trip. In the mean time, I completly understand your thoughts about the "perfect" feeling: I also "like" some watch...
3-D Printing will also be playing a major role in watchmaking in the future...
and that may create another time of turbulence in horology as all the parts can be made to look perfectly hand finished. Thus the brands must innovate even harder to distinguish themselves. Change is inevitable and we must all accept and embrace it :))) C...
"Man made" that will be a print next to Swiss made in the future as ...
..."man will always choose the man made product over the machine made" Karl Marx is saying quite correctly (and I am not tired to mention this here). I have no doubt that it will always be wanted by watch connoisseurs. You can see it in the pre CNC and CA...
You seem to know your Karl Marx...
But we could also quote another great thinker, V.I. Lenin, to describe why man is needed. Lenin said: "Trust is good but control is better". So it's better that man is controlling what the machines are doing. By the way; it seems that V. Putin also studie...