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The S and X drive different from the 3 and Y...

 

Depending on the year of your X, I'm assuming it's only 6 months old. It's a primarily Front-wheel drive machine. All S and X models since the "Raven" engines were installed in 2019 are nor predominantly FWD by software. The pre-Raven cars had an induction motor in the front axle and the post Raven cars have a permanent magnet motor in the front axle. The permanent magnet is more efficient, which is why the software tries to make the car more FWD when it senses demands are low. FWD is also more efficient than RWD, so this is also done to boost range. With any FWD and AWD car, there will be a slight vagueness in the steering when the computer is routing more power to the front wheels. The Model 3 and Y are predominantly RWD cars; they're either RWD engines (with a permanent magnet in the rear axle) and the AWD versions have an induction motor in the front axle. Overall, Tesla vehicles aren't bad cars; they're big, fast, reliable, safe, and objectively on paper very good machines. This is my first non-race car that doesn't have a spare tire and I keep a spare tire in my trunk just in case I have a problem. And as far as SUVs go, the X drives well.

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New shoes for the 6119R

 
By: johnhiggins1960 : January 9th, 2023-17:50
Picked up some new shoes for the 6119R! It really changes the look of the watch. It’s amazing how a new coloured strap on your watch can make it feel like an entirely different piece! Best wishes to you all! ...  

Best modern Calatrava!

 
By: Uppersouth : January 9th, 2023-18:00
The strap is a nice touch and I agree, totally changes the look. You’re going to be wrist-checking all day! Lol

Wow!

 
By: KCLQMULKU : January 9th, 2023-18:17
And I dont normally say that for time only pieces! 🙌

That's a great look.

 
By: Thomas_3 : January 9th, 2023-19:17
I may try that with my vintage G-P Gyromatic, I'm tired off the black lizard strap.

Looks great! Glad to see another happy owner!

 
By: patrick_y : January 9th, 2023-20:41
Speaking about happy ownership, are you a happy owner of your electric car? Just wondering if you've had any problems or issues with it. I drive a Tesla and so far it's been fairly reliable. No major problems.

Thanks!

 
By: johnhiggins1960 : January 9th, 2023-20:49
I had a Tesla for 3 years before the Taycan. Tesla was great but build quality was poor and the car quickly started rattling inside. Taycan has been lovely. Proper German engineering, luxury and refinement. The only thing that’s let’s it down is the range... 

Good to know!

 
By: patrick_y : January 9th, 2023-21:47
So far no reliability issues with the Taycan? Permit me to inquire, how many years and miles you've driven it? Definitely, the Tesla Model 3 has some build quality issues.

Taycan is 3 months old, so far no reliability issues.

 
By: johnhiggins1960 : January 9th, 2023-21:51
Tesla model 3 was over 50,000 miles, but after approx 15,000 I started noting the issues!

I agree about issue of Tesla build quality.

 
By: ArmisT : January 10th, 2023-01:40
Regarding the Taycan, has finding charging stations been an issue? Or perhaps you haven’t needed to charge outside of home base.

Mine is thankfully not too bad...

 
By: patrick_y : January 10th, 2023-01:58
My Tesla Model 3 is thankfully not too bad, although I've been shortchanged some paint in some areas. But at least my panel gaps are consistent. Here in USA, the problem we have is that Electrify America (one of the charging station networks you'd use if ... 

Ah! The X is an impressive machine!

 
By: patrick_y : January 10th, 2023-08:59
How old is your X? My Model 3 is 4 years old, and I've got around 50,000 miles. A great handling car. Double wishbone suspension and tight steering! Just the right amount of tire, not skimping out on tire width like Ford does with their Mustang Mach E. Bu... 

Not even a year yet…

 
By: ArmisT : January 11th, 2023-03:26
going on ~6 months now, so too early to judge the bigger things. But I have my little complaints about door sensors and design choices. Also, I used to hate the fact that I can’t “feel” the car when it’s “on” and that it doesn’t make the sounds I’m used t... 

The S and X drive different from the 3 and Y...

 
By: patrick_y : January 11th, 2023-04:23
Depending on the year of your X, I'm assuming it's only 6 months old. It's a primarily Front-wheel drive machine. All S and X models since the "Raven" engines were installed in 2019 are nor predominantly FWD by software. The pre-Raven cars had an inductio... 

Amazing, this all is informative on a number of levels, thank you. 🙏🏽

 
By: ArmisT : January 11th, 2023-05:02
I say this because our 2022 Model X did/does have me curious about a Model 3 for me. But I have been making the assumption that the Model 3 is probably similar experience to the X, just smaller…which is clearly a faulty way of thinking. I didn’t imagine t... 

Unfortunately, my trunk 30% of the space taken by the spare...

 
By: patrick_y : January 11th, 2023-06:24
30% of the trunk space of my Tesla Model 3 is dedicated to the spare tire! I wished they had factory spare tires! I'm irked! The Tesla Model 3 is actually a decent to drive machine and I would even recommend it over BMW's i4 (which I admittedly haven't dr... 

I've heard great things about the Taycan...

 
By: patrick_y : January 11th, 2023-06:26
I've heard great things about the Taycan, and I think the Taycan might be my kind of a machine! I just wonder if it's efficient, how much energy is lost during "standby" aka "phantom drain." The Tesla has fairly minimal phantom drain. And I'm told the Tay... 

There are software issues for sure.

 
By: johnhiggins1960 : January 11th, 2023-12:35
I’ve not noticed too much phantom drain. I’ll keep an eye on it and report back!

Ahh. Congrats on the new machine!

 
By: patrick_y : January 10th, 2023-01:55
Mine just passed 50,000 miles. Onwards to the big unknown! Although there are people with over 500,000 kilometers who have had relatively few problems. So I'm actually quite happy about that!